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Author Topic:   Big Bang 2 and a new beginning of space/time
ramoss
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Message 1 of 33 (664411)
05-30-2012 10:16 PM


I was watching a program that described a hypothetical end to the universe,trillions of years in the future where all the atoms decayed, and even the black holes decayed, leaving the 'big chill'.

Space and time would still exist, would it not ? What would happen if such an environment had an expansion of energy/matter into it.. sort of a 'big bang 2'. How would observers in that 'second big bang' see the universe differently than we do now?

How can we distinguish between expanding into an empty, cold universe that already had 'space' and distance, versus the creation of space/time as the inflationary theory of the big bang says? If, after a bunch of billion years, intelligent creatures evolved, .. how would they know they were part of an older universe that 'chilled out' .. or would it appear to them that space/time formed at the beginning of the expansion of their energy/matter?

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Changed topic title from "The begining of space/time and the big bang" to "Big Bang 2 and a new beginning of space/time".


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ramoss
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Message 3 of 33 (664413)
05-31-2012 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Adminnemooseus
05-30-2012 10:52 PM


Re: Topic title change suggestion
That sounds good. How do I change the title, or can you edit it when you move it over?

{Historical note - Topic title edits are done via editing message 1. The topic starter or an admin can do such. - Adminnemooseus}

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.


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ramoss
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Message 6 of 33 (666543)
06-28-2012 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Son Goku
06-28-2012 7:24 AM


Re: Subtle issues
Well, wouldn't it be a highly compact amount of energy, rather than matter? Didn't it take a certain period of time for even sub atomic particles to form?

Could you point me to an essay or article on it??

What had stuck me was the description of the 'end of the universe' , where we had gotten into 'the big rip'.. i.e. .. no more stars, or even atoms..nor black holes.

And I thought that the far galaxies DID show effects of acceleration.. as measured by the Ia supernovae in them.


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Message 9 of 33 (666909)
07-01-2012 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by 1.61803
06-28-2012 4:19 PM


Well, according to some of the shows i saw, even black holes will 'decay' over time, via hawking radiation. .. and so will atoms.

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Message 11 of 33 (666998)
07-02-2012 1:31 AM
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07-01-2012 9:23 AM


Re: Subtle issues
I am beginning to see, through a glass darkly. However , if gravity causes space to bend, why didn't the matter cause the space to bend rather than 'inflate'??

Is that one of the things that 'dark energy' is responsible for, since the expansion of space is accelerating?


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