General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')

Now talk about funny! Virtually every creationist that has ever tried posting here totally disagrees with you. What an amazing, amazing coincidence.Its ok dogmafood, the secret is already out of the bag. Evolutionists have been preaching for a long time that its not a good idea to debate creationists, because they always lose. Why should here be any different.Do you know that Emory University has decided to implement a policy of doing background checks on all award recipients or honorary degrees, to make sure they don't have doubts about evolution, even if they have nothing to do with evolution? They want to send the message that if you doubt evolution, you will be shunned from the universities, no matter what science field you are in. This is typical of your communities censorship-which is quite widespread.

I'd support your promotion to moderator, and I'm an evolutionist. And unlike Dogmafood, I'd support it in earnest, because I think the board is improved when creationists are engaged in the process.The pattern, typically, is that promotion to moderator is the "kiss of death" for creationists - they just stop coming around. I hope you'd be the exception to the rule.

Well, Crash, I would actually support you being a moderator; except that one time you actually said Dr. A says things that are funny or entertaining.I think that clearly hints at a questionable sense of judgment, even more so than mine.Perhaps you were hoped up on some kind of new age cough medication when you penned that in delirium?

...Are we seriously throwing snarky insults around while simultaneously discussing a potential new moderator?This place is great, and extremely well moderated, when we remain civil to each other. The quality of discussions drops rapidly when we start to get disrespectful, and I include myself in that assessment. Caustic sarcasm may be entertaining, and it can certainly "win" in terms of public opinion, but it tends to alienate and isolate and insult rather than focusing on evidence and argument.

Point taken. Thank you Admin, that hadn't occurred to me.

I'm always surprised by the people who say this, who think it needs to be said, and by the notion that moderating a discussion board is a task of such Herculean difficulty that we should just completely ignore all the times that moderation actually blocks productive discussion because, gosh, at least they're trying.Sorry, Rahvin, but I expect more from moderators than "aren't 100% fuck-ups" and I think you should, too. Certainly the moderation here is a cut above the rest of the internet, but it's fairly rare for the moderation here to reach it's own standards. I think that matters.

If the moderators met their own standards too often, I'd want them to raise their standards.

I haven't done a thorough search, but it seems that Artemis Entreri has been jeering every post of mine he can find (a total of 133 as of a couple days ago and 269 as of today) but he hasn't jeered my Message 570 where I said this: So either he liked that message or he hasn't seen it yet. In case it's the latter, and since I've received no PM from AE, I'm posting that paragraph again.AbE: Cheers/Jeers for messages older than 90 days don't count toward a member's rating. So AE, if you're out there, that should save you some time.Edited by Admin, : AbE

A rather paltry attempt at revenge.
To me, that appears to be more of the vindictive behaviour that he was banned for.I don't see how that could do anything other than hammer down the last few nails in his permanent ban.

I think clarification is needed on recent moderator actions. Phat moved Unpaid Work For The Unemployed to Free For All in Message 236. I would have thought this meant we were largely free to behave like uncivil animals at one another within legal limits.However Percy has posted a moderator request to stop talking about 'perceived problems' in Message 241. I think there's a fair probability that crashfrog will want to respond to the lies he believes I am telling in my posts to him, so it would be wise to get that matter clarified before he starts writing his response out.So which wins out, Percy's request or the Free For All philosophy?Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

I didn't notice the move to Free For All. Could you and a couple other participants chime in as to whether they'd prefer moderation or not?

I'm happy to avoid moderation while the discussion remains legal, which I anticipate.

Maybe they just want to make sure honorary recipients aren't absolute morons?- Oni

..and I will be here all week, don't forget to tip those waitresses, bada baam! Absolute MOR-ONS! ha haaa.Seriously though Onifre, what do you do for a living?

I would support you having a role as a Mod.I agree with virtually nothing you have ever posted but that is not the point of a Mod: if you are objective you get my vote.