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Dr Adequate
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Message 1 of 46 (665529)
06-14-2012 4:40 PM


Here.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 7 of 46 (665542)
06-14-2012 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by subbie
06-14-2012 5:02 PM


First, I never trust what the press says about a case; they usually get something wrong, often something significant.
He videotaped the confrontation and entered it as an exhibit in his own defense. Yeah, that worked so well.
This is the main reason why I brought it up again, I saw the video. It seems to me that saying the magic words: "I am in fear for my life" is not a magical incantation that lets you shoot whoever you want. Especially if you're pointing a gun at your victim when you say it and he is unarmed.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 23 of 46 (665593)
06-15-2012 12:26 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by onifre
06-14-2012 8:19 PM


I don't see where he was the sole aggressor here or even the first.
Talking to someone, even if you raise your voice and use naughty words, is not an act of aggression. Shooting someone, by contrast, is.
If my neighbors are some tough dudes, who are throwing a loud ass party, I would probably also arm myself if I'm going to confront them about the noise. Wouldn't you?
We are obviously very different people.
I guess that's where I'm having the problem. DId he pull the gun out as a defense ...
No.
A defense from what?
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Message 26 of 46 (665597)
06-15-2012 2:16 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by onifre
06-15-2012 1:31 AM


It sure can be. I've witnessed many instances where naughty words and raising your voice is very aggressive.
You're a delicate little flower, aren't you? But whether or not we class it as aggression, it is not the sort of aggression that warrants an armed response.
From aggressors. Are you not following? You confront some drunk thugs at a party and instantly you're surrounded by them telling you to fuck off. You pull out a gun as a defense to get yourself out of the situation. You get followed out into the street by three drunk mean who have now attacked you and taken your camera. Stand your ground law says you can shoot and you don't have to back down.
But that is not what happened.

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