God Is Cursing America

An Oversight, DA. I meant to say Saudi.Obama, the masterful deceiver becomes both Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde, depending on the occasion.

I was refering to the treatment of Arabs in Israel and especially the occupied territories.But you missed the main point of my message: Why does God need help protecting Israel?Edited by ringo, : Spelting.

Ah, I see. Well, King Abdullah's the one in the right ... and I guess Obama's the one on the left, yes? Quite so. He's Dr. Jekyll when he's doing real stuff, and Mr. Hyde when he's doing imaginary stuff.Dr. Jekyll, for example, gives Israel three billion real dollars a year in real military aid. Mr. Hyde throws Israel under an imaginary bus.

You do remember Israel invading Lebanon and also occupying parts of Syria and much of the Palestinian territory? You remember that Israel is occupying foreign territory even now?

The fifties?

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The three allies, especially Israel, were mainly successful in attaining their immediate military objectives, but pressure from the United States and the USSR at the United Nations and elsewhere forced them to withdraw. As a result of the outside pressure Britain and France failed in their political and strategic aims of controlling the canal and removing Nasser from power. Israel fulfilled some of its objectives, such as attaining freedom of navigation through the Straits of Tiran.

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In the sixties?

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Israel captured the entire Sinai Peninsula, and Palestine's Gaza Strip from Egypt, the Palestinian West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan (which it had ruled since 1949), and the Golan Heights from Syria

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The seventies?

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The 1978 South Lebanon conflict (code-named Operation Litani by Israel) was an invasion of Lebanon up to the Litani River...The conflict resulted in the deaths of 1,100—2,000 Lebanese and Palestinians, 20 Israelis, the internal displacement of 100,000 to 250,000 people in Lebanon

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The eighties?

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By expelling the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the removal of Syrian influence over Lebanon, and the installment of a pro-Israeli Christian government led by Bachir Gemayel, Israel hoped to sign a treaty which Menachem Begin promised would give Israel "forty years of peace.

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Now, granted that is not 'conquering' but it is 'taking land and affecting political changes through the use of military invasions'. I think that should give us reason to worry about an Arab Holocaust. But I don't think it's particularly likely. That said, I probably wouldn't have thought the Jewish Holocaust was likely.Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

The fifties?

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The three allies, especially Israel, were mainly successful in attaining their immediate military objectives, but pressure from the United States and the USSR at the United Nations and elsewhere forced them to withdraw. As a result of the outside pressure Britain and France failed in their political and strategic aims of controlling the canal and removing Nasser from power. Israel fulfilled some of its objectives, such as attaining freedom of navigation through the Straits of Tiran.

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In return France and Great Britain provided Israel with the ability to create nuclear weapons. Source

Can i just ask if you where in power what would you do to the gays and israel so magic man would not curse america?

Sure, Frako. I would do nothing to gays. I would neither prosecute, officially sanction or persecute them. They, as Americans have all rights that the rest of us have, but no more than the rest of us haveI would support the tiny messianic nation of Israel, providing enough armament to defend themselves. That's all Israel needs or wants.

... not quite ... Oh look, you wrote something true. I'm sure it was an oversight. Well, that seems to be what we're doing, insofar as no-one's currently invading them.So remind me why God's smiting us again?Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

They currently DO NOT have the same rights, as heterosexuals. They can get married in a few states, but only a few, but it isen't regonized at a federal level.Do you support gay marriage buz? Thats what im getting from that post. Lucky for you, so does Obama and his administration. Just as the prior administrations since the creation of Israel in '48. From the original sympathy for a jewish homeland, to the millitary partnership, at the expenses of the United States, it is today.Edited by rbp, : No reason given.

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but they have less rights then you they cannot marry the ones they love. You do know israel has one of the most armoured tank types in the world because it costs them more to train a tanker then to loose a tank.

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Sure, Frako. I would do nothing to gays. I would neither prosecute, officially sanction or persecute them. They, as Americans have all rights that the rest of us have, but no more than the rest of us have

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So no change of policy there. You are quite happy to legitimise sodomy, despite claiming that God is against that.

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I would support the tiny messianic nation of Israel, providing enough armament to defend themselves. That's all Israel needs or wants.

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Three billion dollars A YEAR in military aid isn't enough ? And even if it isn't then we still haven't had an explanation of why donations on that scale should count as a "curse" rather than a "blessing"

Anyone can have a private marriage contract among their own group, church etc unrecorded by the government. Some churches do this for elderly couples who co-habit.Gays/lesbians would not be denied this same option.

Buz, marriage is a legal contract issued or recognized by the government.Unless it is recorded and sanctioned by the government it carries NO rights or responsibilities.