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Panda Member (Idle past 3972 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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Larni writes:
I am not sure that you can demolish things that have never existed. Does anyone think that it has not been established that all of Buz's points have been demolished? Buzsaw made some baseless claims and when asked to substantiate them he has...
Since Buzsaw refuses to do anything more than troll his own thread, there is little else for anyone else to do either.Though I expect he realises that when it comes to evidence of his bigoted claims, as usual, he has nothing to back them up - because there is nothing to back them up. CRYSTALS!!
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subbie Member (Idle past 1514 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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Though I expect he realises that when it comes to evidence of his bigoted claims, as usual, he has nothing to back them up.... I see no basis for believing that he has this awareness. In fact, given his extensive history here of maintained unevidenced positions in the face of massive amounts of contradictory evidence, I think it's reasonable to assume that he simply lacks the capacity to understand the concept of supporting evidence.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2366 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Robert Heinlein wrote,
Belief gets in the way of learning. Time Enough for Love, 1973 I think we are seeing an extreme case of this. Buz seems incapable of entertaining any idea that contradicts his beliefs--no matter what the evidence says. This may be good religion, but it is contrary to what it means to be human. Another gifted writer, Ayn Rand, explained it this way:
What is the nature of the guilt that your teachers call his Original Sin? What are the evils man acquired when he fell from a state they consider perfection? Their myth declares that he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledgehe acquired a mind and became a rational being. It was the knowledge of good and evilhe became a moral being. He was sentenced to earn his bread by his laborhe became a productive being. He was sentenced to experience desirehe acquired the capacity of sexual enjoyment. The evils for which they damn him are reason, morality, creativeness, joyall the cardinal values of his existence. It is not his vices that their myth of man’s fall is designed to explain and condemn, it is not his errors that they hold as his guilt, but the essence of his nature as man. Whatever he wasthat robot in the Garden of Eden, who existed without mind, without values, without labor, without lovehe was not man.
SourceReligious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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AdminPhat Inactive Member
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Lets quit jumping all over Buzsaw and give him some breathing room. This is his topic, and I think it only fair that he be allowed to continue it.
Buzsaw, if you dont have anything more to express, I may consider closing it, but if you do, by all means continue.
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Taq Member Posts: 10303 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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As we throw Israel under the bus, all the while aiding and building up the armies of their enemies, we are essentially cursing Israel. I, like others, are wondering why God needs our help. Even more, how can America thwart God's intentions? Seems really wierd if you ask me. Is God omnipotent or not?
That America is being pounded with disaster after disaster is, imo, just another evidence that he does, indeed, exist and is to be feared and acknowledge by man, whom he created in his image. Some people just don't know how good they have it. You cite people being without power, and yet 200 years ago NO ONE HAD POWER!!! Oh, the wrath of God was quite powerful 200 years ago. Wonder what they did. I guess you have never heard of the Little Ice Age, Black Plague, 1917 flu pandemic, the burning of San Francisco, Chicago, and London, etc. Did you live through the Dust Bowl? My grandparents did, and I really doubt that today's disasters are worse than that single disaster. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Lets quit jumping all over Buzsaw and give him some breathing room. Internet dogpiles are one of the Seven Plagues that God has unleashed upon America. Buzsaw is merely suffering for our national sins.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
But office football pools are not marriage I believe. Do you truly believe that the only duties and responsibilities in a marriage are those which are enforced by the government?Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3717 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined:
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Unfortunately the your Bible verses don't support that God is cursing America.
quote:God is talking specifically about Abram. Those who bless Abram will be blessed by God and those who curse Abram will be cursed by God. And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. KJV It doesn't apply to Abrams descendants or the current state of Israel. Thee is singular.
quote:The story does not say that the cities were destroyed due to the prevalence of homosexuality. God said that the outcry against the cities was so great and their sin so grievous that the cities would be destroyed. It was nonspecific. (Genesis 18:20-21) Even the messengers did not make the accusation more specific. (Genesis 19:13)
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jar Member (Idle past 99 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There is no marriage unless it is recognized by the government.
Since this is totally off topic and irrelevant to the thread, if you would like to start a new topic I'd be happy to discuss it there.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
It doesn't apply to Abrams descendants or the current state of Israel. Thee is singular. Good catch.
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GDR Member Posts: 6223 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 3.8
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Buz
The most well known sermon in the Bible is Jesus' "Sermon on the Mount". Let's just see what Jesus has to say about thiis. From Matthew 5:quote:Emphasis mine. Your view of the character of God is so often in complete contradiction to what we see in the character of His incarnation in Jesus. I've known others that hold to the same view of Biblianity as opposed to Christianity that you do, and like you they in general do a lot of good in the world from lovingly raising their kids to both monetarily and physically supported unconditional aid to the third world. It does however too often bring people to hold views that IMHO are decidedly un-Christlike when it comes to being judgemental and feeling that something has to be done about it. Paul writes this in 1st Corinthians 4:quote: I do believe God will judge at the end of but as Paul says it will be "at that time". In the meantime we are called to let Him work in the hearts of men to bring aid to those that have endured hardship from disaster whether it is our own countries or anywhere else in the world.He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God. Micah 6:8
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Your view of the character of God is so often in complete contradiction to what we see in the character of His incarnation in Jesus. To be fair to him, that's because he's getting his ideas from the Old Testament, which gives us a view of the character of God which is, in fact, in complete contradiction to what we see in the character of his supposed incarnation in Jesus.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
There is no marriage unless it is recognized by the government. Of course it would be off topic to discuss the above. The above is not remotely the same as your original statement, which was "Unless it is recorded and sanctioned by the government it carries NO rights or responsibilities."Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison
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jar Member (Idle past 99 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Start a thread about the topic.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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AdminPhat Inactive Member
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This topic is dead in the water. Buzsaw, if you wish to reopen, let us know.
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