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NosyNed
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Message 31 of 43 (64078)
11-03-2003 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by smartalec_3
11-02-2003 10:19 PM


Re: Poor, defensless people...
Funny, you seem to know an unusual group of Christians. Most of the ones I know do not behave like that at all. Or maybe I'm just lucky.

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NosyNed
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Message 32 of 43 (64079)
11-03-2003 1:24 AM
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11-02-2003 10:19 PM


Re: Poor, defensless people...
By the way, Smartalec, you may have managed the impossible here. You seem to be offering something that both the creationists and the "scientists" can agree on.

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Message 33 of 43 (64224)
11-03-2003 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by NosyNed
11-03-2003 1:24 AM


Actually, to tell the truth (which I just realized when rereading my original post when people started complaining about it), I wrote part of the paragraph which started this whole thing, and one of my "freinds" (with an ignorant attitude such that he may have written the email which started off this thread) emailed it back to me with his own added stuff. It was the only copy I had and I posted it just then without realizing he had altered it. I reread it as soon as people started complaning about things in the paragraphs which I never remember writing. I apoligize for any inconvenience I have caused, and as you may have already guessed, I know some very ignorant people.

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Trump won 
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Message 34 of 43 (66711)
11-15-2003 5:26 PM


This one cracks me up, a reply from the med student David:
quote:
The problem is that you dont understand what is science and what is christianity. Because you are a fanatic fundamentalist. The first and the real christian church is the Roman-Catholic. Your church is a sect - like all others by Martin Lutheros fundation.
My friend: Evolution is a fact, the Pope know that, a lot of christians know that and I accept it.. and I think you know that - but you have mental problems I think.
See you!
I asked him questions, no answer, I told him everyone knows it's a theory but he can't except it I guess
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-chris
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Message 35 of 43 (66717)
11-15-2003 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Trump won
11-15-2003 5:26 PM


I told him everyone knows it's a theory but he can't except it I guess.
Everyone knows it is a theory, but only the people who read and understand the literature know that the 'theory' of evolution is there to explain the observable fact of evolution.
He probably never answered your questions because he realises that, since you are unaware of the basics, there would be no point in answering them.
Brian.

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Trump won 
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Message 36 of 43 (66750)
11-15-2003 9:49 PM
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11-15-2003 6:10 PM


quote:
He probably never answered your questions because he realises that, since you are unaware of the basics, there would be no point in answering them.
Me not aware of the basics? I could have sworn he said we evolved from apes not a common ancestor...
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Message 37 of 43 (66751)
11-15-2003 9:51 PM
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11-15-2003 6:10 PM


quote:
Everyone knows it is a theory, but only the people who read and understand the literature know that the 'theory' of evolution is there to explain the observable fact of evolution.
Micro: Yes
Macro: No
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-chris

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NosyNed
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Message 38 of 43 (66760)
11-15-2003 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Trump won
11-15-2003 9:51 PM


Messenjah, since you are using terms like micro and macro perhaps you could point us to the definition.
Also we have asked a number of creationists to point to the magic in the genes that somehow draws this line between macro and micro but, sigh, no one seems to be able to supply even a wild guess.
You are probably aware that various creationists accept an enomous amount of extraordinarily rapid evolution. The degree that some of them accept involves the appearance of not just new speices but new genera as well. This appearance happens in a couple of thousand years too!!!!
If you think you have a solid base of "research" behind you to support your micro yes, macro no post then you might be a bit disappointed if you try to find that support.

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Message 39 of 43 (66833)
11-16-2003 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by NosyNed
11-15-2003 10:46 PM


speciation=micro
.......
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-chris

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Message 40 of 43 (66837)
11-16-2003 12:26 PM
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11-16-2003 11:45 AM


messenJah,
So the only form of evolution that is micro is speciation?
An obviously false definition.
Mark

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NosyNed
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Message 41 of 43 (66839)
11-16-2003 12:39 PM
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11-16-2003 12:26 PM


Could you explain that a little Mark?
But let's carry this over to the appropriate thread ok?
New Micro and Macro topic
I started this as there doesn't seem to be one focussed on this issue.
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Brian
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Message 42 of 43 (66873)
11-16-2003 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Trump won
11-15-2003 9:51 PM


So Messenjah, have you knowingly lied to the medical student?
You tell him that evolution is only a theory yet you accept that evolution happens!
Deary dear, see you in the big burny fire Chris, I will keep a seat for you.
Brian.

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Message 43 of 43 (66948)
11-16-2003 9:45 PM


Closing time
I think this one long ago covered the original theme, and there is a new spin-off topic.
Closing this one down.
Adminnemooseus
ps: Yes, I realize that my moderation efforts, including topic closings, are hit and miss. But just because you can't do everything just right is no reason to do nothing at all.
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