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Message 215 of 310 (669509)
07-30-2012 3:58 PM


Well as long as folks are walking around armed, I too want to be armed.
If some asshole pulls his pistol I much rather have a firearm than a list of all the things wrong with gun violence and proliferation to counter.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 219 of 310 (669513)
07-30-2012 4:17 PM
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07-30-2012 4:06 PM


Ringo writes:
Isn't he more likely to fire his weapon if you draw yours?
Not sure. If I hit what I aim at he wont be doing nothing but running, bleeding or dying.
Edited by 1.61803, : corrected

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 247 of 310 (669591)
07-31-2012 10:39 AM
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07-30-2012 5:02 PM


Onifre writes:
What's the point of all these concealed weapons if you badasses aren't gonna defend all of us?
Hello Onfre, I was in Killeen Texas 1991, the day a man decided he would drive his truck through the Luby Resturant front window and systematically shoot 23 people.
Luby's shooting - Wikipedia
I was also in Harker Heights Texas about 5 miles away from
Ft Hood the 5th Nov 2009 when Major Hassan, a Army Psychiatric Dr . Decided to shoot and kill 13 people. In both instances the bad guys stopped what they were doing because law enforcement .
I personally would rather be armed when the shit hits the fan. No one can say what one will do when faced with the possibility of death. Thats why people train, so when faced with such stress and fear hopefully the training will take over.
You'd shit your pants like the rest of us.
You have no idea what I'd do any more than what you would do.
I am a vet US Army Medical Corp, I also have 15 years ER and ICU hospital experience as well as first responder experience. I can tell you first hand that people can surprise you when the blood and guts are flying.
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Message 253 of 310 (669610)
07-31-2012 1:33 PM
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07-31-2012 1:15 PM


Dr. Adequate writes:
I personally would like everyone other than me not to be armed when the shit hits the fan. I would think that that would reduce the volume of the shit.
Absolutely. If no one was armed that would be the best case scenario. Even towns like Deadwood and Tombstone had very restrictive gun laws.

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Message 301 of 310 (669754)
08-02-2012 11:02 AM


My 2 cents.
Well my final take on the topic is that there are those who feel firearm proliferation is linked to violent crime. Either through the ease of killing with such weapons or the general availability of them.
Then there are those who feel the right to keep and bare arms is of more importance than the possible reduction of firearms for the sake of hopefully reducing violent crime and accidents. This is a common deep seated American view.
Then yet another camp who takes a pragmatic view that anything that is a cause of grief in a society should be done away with.
So whats the answer? Well I really believe you can not un-invent the wheel so to speak. Pandoras box has been opened. Guns in America are prolific and available to most anyone who wishes to obtain one. I am a gun owner. Am I part of the problem? Perhaps, since the fact that I possess fire arms that could be used to do bad things is always a possibility. But it has been my experience that many gun owners own them for a myriad of reasons. To some they are objects of art, to collect. To others they are objects to customize and tinker with. Some folks like to go out and shoot them for fun. Some folks have a Freudian complex and have guns to compensate for a tiny pecker. On and on the reasons for gun ownership is as varied as the types of guns themselves.
I find guns amazing things, but I know they are a scourge of mankind as well. As long as people are irresponsible, criminal, violent there will be gun related deaths. And every gun owner must come to terms with his desire to own one knowing the horror this invention has brought upon our species. Stan Lee's quote comes to mind,
"With great power comes great responsibility."

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

  
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