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08-02-2012 1:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by dronestar
08-02-2012 1:35 PM

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
I'm not any kind of lawyer.
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I have always taken the point to be "the security of a free state". This includes the need to defend against external invaders. But it also includes the need to defend against a tyrannical local government which threatens freedom by virtue of its tyrrany.
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Unfortunately, we have some people who want to apply the absurd principles of Biblical literalism to the constitution.
Jesus was a liberal hippie
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08-02-2012 10:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 4 by dronestar
08-02-2012 3:24 PM

So, since the amendment hasn't been useful for this purpose in a long time, should it have been abolished 150(?) years ago?
Realistically, you are not going to get it abolished.
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Any attempt to drastically restrict access to guns will be seen by many as just the kind of tyranny that the 2nd amendment was to supposed to protect against.
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The real problem is not the 2nd amendment. It is the gun culture in America. The way to change culture is by a grass roots effort from within, rather than by imposing change from on high. And that won't happen any time soon.
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08-03-2012 12:05 AM 		Reply to: Message 10 by jar
08-02-2012 10:23 PM

That may well be true.
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