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Buzsaw
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Message 273 of 415 (668468)
07-21-2012 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Percy
07-21-2012 8:30 AM


Re: What's the purpose here?
Percy writes:
the observed tendency is for evangelical juries in states like Texas and Alabama to convict more easily in the absence of eyewitness testimony. Evangelicals seem to place a greater reliance upon this evidence you denigrate to a greater extent than any other group.
Percy, what is your source for this allegation?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 294 of 415 (669127)
07-27-2012 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 271 by Percy
07-21-2012 8:30 AM


Re: Eye Witness Evidence
Percy writes:
......... murders leave behind evidence (blood, fingerprints, hair, etc.), and that evidence has eyewitnesses, and the experiments conducted on the evidence have eyewitnesses, and the data produced by the experiments has eyewitnesses. In fact, the observed tendency is for evangelical juries in states like Texas and Alabama to convict more easily in the absence of eyewitness testimony. Evangelicals seem to place a greater reliance upon this evidence you denigrate to a greater extent than any other group.
Biogenesis, the alleged evolvement of the first organisms into plants and creatures or the alleged zero event of the alleged expansion following were eye witnessed by no one. All were derived from non-physical and non-observable string, relative and mathmatic theories.
None of the above had eyewitnesses of anything pertaining to their alleged happening. All have been derived from theoretic math, relativity and string abstract concoctions, We all are, however eyewitnesses to the firtle and productive tiny nation of Israel, now occupied by the returned Jews, after being dispersed globally.
The restoration of Israel, the return of the Jews from their global dispersement who restored the wilderness of the Gentile nation into lush productive land were all prophesied by Jehovah to Abraham, the prophecies of the OT BC prophets, Jesus and his NT apostles, all prophesied over nineteen centuries before the fact.
We are all eyewitnesses to the emerging numbers and marks monetary systems emerging these latter days after milleniums of exchange by physical valuable portable goods like precious metals, coinage etc throught recorded human history.
The relatively sudden emergence of the Industrial Revolution has been stayed off, as implicated in the Biblical prophecies relating to latter day events.
No secularistic minded archeologist has to falsified the photographically evidenced eye witnesses at Aqaba's Nuweiba Beach. The photographic evidence was photographed by a marine scientist with a ship equiped with all needed for marine archeological research.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 304 of 415 (669333)
07-29-2012 6:51 AM
Reply to: Message 303 by Percy
07-29-2012 6:32 AM


Re: Creationist Shortage
Percy writes:
As I've said before, the decline in creationist participation is due to larger forces outside EvC's control. Part of it is the move to social sites like Facebook and Twitter. Part of it is the move to mobile platforms like phones and tablets where discussion boards are more difficult to use. And part of it is a loss of interest on the part of creationists for direct confrontation with science
As long as you believe that, Percy, there will continue to be a shortage of biblical (I say "biblical") creationists on this site. If ever EvC comes to be moderated in a fair and balanced manner there will be plenty of us.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 407 of 415 (669809)
08-03-2012 7:45 AM


Summary
Evolutionists are here to, presumably, expose others to their beliefs and hopefully to convince some to accept those beliefs.
Those who hold other beliefs, or who prefer to follow the Genesis record, continue to ask for observable evidence that evolutionist's beliefs are worth following.
Many evolutionists, and hence their followers, place a great value on abstract methodology which run counter to what is physically observed. Creationists who follow the Biblical record place a great value on physically observed evidence such as fulfilled prophecy, archeological research, human cultural, recorded history, etc. Biblical (I say "Biblical") creationists emphasise, corroborative evidence, whereas evolutionists, most often have nothing capable of corroboration.
Many evolutionists appear unable to accept any challenges to their beliefs. Too many resort to personal attack, demanding evidence, all the while denying evidence cited. If they admit to one cited evidence of the existence of the supernatural realm, it would refute their secularistic mindset.
Others post and then try to defend their beliefs against evidence brought up that contradicts those beliefs. (Biogenesis and the zero singularity, allegidly three and a half billion years ago are prime examples.)
They tend to persist in the face of supportive evidence cited by Biblical creationists. EvC, being an evolutionst board, they rarely ever question their beliefs by debating corroborative evidence.
Another category of evolutionists, of which we have a few prime examples, ignore all evidence that contradicts their beliefs. They post anything that may seem (I say "seem") to support their beliefs. When challenged they resort to evidence too often based on what is not physically observable.
The problem can be said to be one of worldview. One side emphasizes physical evidence while the other emphasizes what has been brain-washed into their minds throughout their schooling.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Tidy up message

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

  
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