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Jon
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Message 16 of 51 (669820)
08-03-2012 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Straggler
08-03-2012 9:20 AM


Time to Brush Up on the Issue
Your statements are common of folk living in countries with strict gun-control laws who know absolutely nothing about the issue as it pertains to the United States.
Do you honestly believe that the reason that the US isn't being converted into a totalitarian regime as we write is because Joe and his buddies have access to rifles and suchlike and that the government is just too scared of these gun wielding protectors of freedom to do what it really wants to do?
Did someone say that?
Do you really think that those countries where we don't have the same attitude to guns are in some terrible danger of sleepwalking into such a regime because we, the citizenry, aren't armed enough to stop the government doing that?
Did someone say that?
The government (or more accurately those who effectively own the politicians) have far more effective and profitable methods of getting the populace to give them what they want anyway.
As long as those methods continue to work.
It will be eliminated by a a mass of gun nuts who decide that the elected government isn't white, homophobic or right wing enough for their tastes......
Where is your evidence that such a mass of gun nuts even exists? Or that their views on sexuality are tied to their beliefs regarding gun ownership?
It is the gun nuts that you guys need to protect democracy from!!!
Spoken like a true outsider who doesn't have a clue in hell what he's talking about.
Jon

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 36 of 51 (669868)
08-04-2012 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by petrophysics1
08-04-2012 9:41 AM


Re: British despotism
I have never met a "gun nut" who wanted to force me to do anything or to take my property or force me to pay them money. I have met and seen many in gov't who who think it's perfectly fine to use the force of arms to make me and others comply.
Ah yes. All these people claiming that gun violence is a threat to democracy seem to forget that the biggest users of gun violence to force compliance are their very own governmentsnone of them afraid in the least to use that violence on their own citizens whenever it suits them.
Two days ago I was canoeing on Burnt Lake with my wife. We stopped at a small beach and while taking a piss noticed fresh mountain lion scat on the ground. My wife pointed out fresh front bear paw prints in the muddy sand next to the lake. A big sucker, prints 8-10" across. The area just east of my house is either National forest or part of the Bridger Teton National Wilderness. Now you may wish to walk around there unarmed but I have other plans than being eaten at present.
May I ask what you carry and whether it'd be sufficient to protect against a large bear like the one you describe?
Or is a loud bang all it takes to send a bear running?
Jon
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

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