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Author Topic:   Why would God write a book of lies and why would you worship such a being?
PaulK
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Message 7 of 86 (670015)
08-08-2012 1:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by foreveryoung
08-07-2012 11:38 PM


Here are some questions for you.
1) Who said that God wrote the Bible ? The Bible doesn't make such a claim itself. The most you can find is a vague assertion that some unspecified scriptures are "God-breathed" - in a letter generally accepted as a pseudonymous work from the 2nd Century AD.
2) Jesus told stories that were pure fiction to make a point. How do you know that there aren't other stories like that in the Bible ? (Job and Jonah come to mind as obvious candidates).
3) Exodus lacks even basic historical details that would let us set a date on the events (such as the names of the Pharaohs). Things we could expect to see in even an ordinary human account if it were written as a real history or even close to the time of events. Why is that, if it is not that Exodus is a legendary account written long after the events ?
4) Papias, an early Christian (writing no later than the 2nd Century) is quoted (by Eusebius, a Christian of the 3rd-4th Centuries) as saying that Mark wrote down events in the wrong order. If early Christians did not take the Gospels as inerrant, why should you ?
5) Inerrantists often claim that the Bible has to be interpreted on the assumption of inerrancy, and are known to come to readings on this basis that cannot be reasonably derived from a plain reading of the text. Doesn't this raise the same sort of problem ? If you can't understand the Bible without heavy interpretation assuming a doctrine which isn't even clearly taught in the Bible how can you know that your interpretations are correct ? Isn't that putting doctrine before the Bible ? Isn't it meant to be the other way around ?
{Careful - I'm trying to keep this from being a "The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy" type topic - Adminnemooseus}
{Upon further study, I think this message is ALMOST all off-topic - Adminnemooseus
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PaulK
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Message 50 of 86 (670194)
08-10-2012 5:14 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by foreveryoung
08-09-2012 8:57 AM


It takes a leap of faith to say that the Bible is entirely correct.
It takes a leap of faith to say that the Bible is accurate on the issue of salvation despite being incorrect on other issues.
Why is the first leap of faith acceptable to you, but the second not ?
Which position is more consistent with the Bible ?

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