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ringo

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Message 342 of 382 (670261)
08-11-2012 5:23 PM

Reply to: Message 341 by GDR
08-11-2012 5:07 PM

GDR writes:

It seems to me that it is more difficult to rationalize a deistic god with sufficient intelligence to design a process that would bring about human curiosity, reason and imagination without being involved in one way or another, even if it just being involved in the human thought process.

A deistic god would be a scientific god, with a hands-off approach to his experiment. By contrast, most theistic gods are depicted as obsessive and often bumbling tinkerers.

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Message 346 of 382 (670265)
08-11-2012 5:51 PM

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08-11-2012 5:34 PM

GDR writes:

ringo writes:

By contrast, most theistic gods are depicted as obsessive and often bumbling tinkerers.

You've been listening to the wrong theists.

So how is an interfering god "more plausible"? Since we discovered evolution, antibiotics, etc. by using science, why is it less plausible that a god would use a similar process?

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Message 374 of 382 (670365)
08-13-2012 11:57 AM

People who equivocate deisim with atheism seem to be defining atheism as "no theism". It's a simplistic way of thinking where everything is black and white, everything is true or false.

But it isn't a true or false question; it's multiple choice: theism, deism or atheism - where atheism is defined as "no (theism + deisim)".

Then there are those pesky agnostics who just go on to the next question.

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