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Author Topic:   Obama will not win a second term
Dr Adequate
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Message 232 of 311 (670311)
08-12-2012 12:16 PM


Auden, September 1st, 1939
All I have is a voice
To undo the folded lie,
The romantic lie in the brain
Of the sensual man-in-the-street
And the lie of Authority
Whose buildings grope the sky:
There is no such thing as the State
And no one exists alone;
Hunger allows no choice
To the citizen or the police;
We must love one another or die.

  
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Message 240 of 311 (670326)
08-12-2012 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by RAZD
08-12-2012 4:22 PM


Re: Negative Ads
Not gonna happen as would need an amendment to the constitution.
It would require an amendment to abolish the electoral college, but to change the system so that the guy who wins the popular vote is elected, all that's required is that a bunch of states which between them have a majority of the electoral college should sign a binding agreement that they'll give their electoral college delegates to whoever actually wins the election. A number of states have already done this, contingent on enough other states joining the agreement.
It's not improbable that Obama will win the electoral college vote but lose the popular vote, in which case look out for a lot of red states signing up for this.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 242 of 311 (670329)
08-12-2012 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by RAZD
08-12-2012 7:59 PM


Re: Use the Electoral College to improve things
And go from one extreme to the other disregarding how their state votes?
Well, if you'd like the winner of the popular vote to win, that's how to do it.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 246 of 311 (670339)
08-13-2012 1:44 AM
Reply to: Message 245 by NoNukes
08-12-2012 10:55 PM


Electoral College Reform
It's possible for states to sign legally binding treaties with one another. What exactly would happen if one of them reneged on such a treaty I don't know, but I do know that they can do it.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 254 of 311 (670362)
08-13-2012 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 247 by Buzsaw
08-13-2012 5:08 AM


Re: Gotta Be Woeful Ignorance.
What amazes me is how a board of such intelligent sheeple can remain in such utter ignorance of the despot that they are supporting.
You find it amazing that intelligent people disagree with you? I'd have thought you'd be used to it by now.

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Message 263 of 311 (670389)
08-13-2012 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by Buzsaw
08-13-2012 5:08 AM


Re: Gotta Be Woeful Ignorance.
What amazes me is how a board of such intelligent sheeple can remain in such utter ignorance of the despot that they are supporting.
Obama's despotism score ...
Elections suspended: 0
Political opponents shot: 0
Times martial law declared: 0
Political organizations banned: 0
Hostile news outlets shut down: 0
Killing fields: 0
Re-education camps: 0
Total despotism score: 0
It's like if they were Jews in Germany ...
My being-like-a-Jew-in-Nazi-Germany score:
Times I've been arrested under the Nuremberg Laws: 0
Little yellow stars I've been forced to wear: 0
Concentration camps I've been sent to: 0
Times I've been murdered: 0
Total being-like-a-Jew-in-Nazi-Germany score: 0

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Message 282 of 311 (670570)
08-16-2012 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 275 by foreveryoung
08-16-2012 9:26 AM


Re: Out of context, the Bible says "there is no God"
And when you listen to all of obamas speech , you get exactly what the ad is telling you obama meant, which is: You did not build that....You could not have built that without government....It wasn't your smarts that built that....It wasn't your hard work that built that....It was the roads and bridges that government paid for that built that, along with everything in your life that government had something to do with that built that.....That is EXACTLY what obama meant in that speech in its ENTIRETY of context. That is not deceptive or lying. Taking that one quote "you didn't build that" is not out of context. The entirety of the speech is meant to convey that exact meaning.
Well, no it isn't. We all know what he said and what he therefore meant. So do you, don't you? Don't you?
If your silly nonsense was his platform, then he'd have said so, wouldn't he? But instead your point is: "If you read this one thing that he said once, and if you turn your brain off and ignore everything else that he's said ever, and if you try really hard to misinterpret what he said, then you can misinterpret him as meaning something the complete opposite of what he believes, so you should vote against him."

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Dr Adequate
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Message 301 of 311 (670619)
08-16-2012 2:45 PM


Summary
Paranoid lunatics are, of course, funny. But they'd be funnier if they weren't allowed to vote. As it is, they're also slightly disturbing.

  
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