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Message 39 of 181 (669496)
07-30-2012 1:47 PM


Canada vs USA
What's the difference between Canadians and Americans?
Americans want to win a gold medal. Anything less is failure.
Canadians hope for fourth place, realistically expect eighth and are happy with twelfth.

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Message 46 of 181 (669603)
07-31-2012 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Artemis Entreri
07-30-2012 7:57 PM


Re: Canada vs USA
Chaoticskunk writes:
pulease you got the best Ice Hockey team on the planet. I'd rather USA beat Canada than the USSR in Ice Hockey.
We do have a different attitude toward the Winter Olympics. If we don't win a medal in hockey, it's a national disaster.
(Allow me to put in a plug for Clara Hughes the only person on earth to win multiple medals in both Summer and Winter Olymics.)
Edited by ringo, : Spylling.

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Message 54 of 181 (669760)
08-02-2012 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by bluegenes
08-02-2012 8:05 AM


bluegenes writes:
The real star performers are the Jamaicans with their small population and brilliant sprinting, and the Australians, consistently the best all round sporting culture in the world.
Canada's 1996 Olympic gold-medal 4x100 relay team were all originally from Caribbean countries, including Donovan Bailey, our 100-meter gold medalist. I hope we're as eager to "own" all of our immigrants as we are those who shine bright on the international stage.
(And we need to figure out how to attract more Australian immigrants.)

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Message 87 of 181 (670076)
08-08-2012 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by caffeine
08-08-2012 11:45 AM


Re: Finshing last in the final
caffeine writes:
Many people get to come and compete at the Olympics without being the best, but they won't be in the final.
Remember the Jamaican bobsled team (see Cool Runnings) at the 1988 Calgary Olympics?
I like the combination of "best in the world" with "everybody gets to participate".

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Message 103 of 181 (670369)
08-13-2012 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by onifre
08-13-2012 10:56 AM


Re: America's odd ordering
Onifre writes:
Hey, we do it for you guys and the third world countries so they can feel good about themselves.
Canadians are so polite that we always let the other guy go first. At the finish line it's, "Oh I'm sorry. After you."

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Message 114 of 181 (670460)
08-15-2012 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by bluegenes
08-15-2012 9:39 AM


Re: Is the U.S.A. a top sporting culture?
bluegenes writes:
I get the impression from looking at the American media that many Americans won't realise that the U.S. performance was actually below average to "first world" (wealthy country) standards.
I'm reminded of the 1996 Olympics when American Michael Johnson won gold in the 200 meters. He was touted as the "fastest man in the world" even though he was demonstrably slower than Canadian Donovan Bailey (whom I have mentioned earlier in the thread) who won gold in the 100 meters. In an earlier Olympics, when fellow American Carl Lewis had won gold in the 100 meters, he was called the "fastest man in the world".
Americans seem to have a need to be the "best", even if they have to move the goalposts to do it.

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Message 174 of 181 (671002)
08-21-2012 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by New Cat's Eye
08-21-2012 11:39 AM


Catholic Scientist writes:
Rather than defining "winning" as something that is practically impossible to say that one country did, why not just define it as whoever wins the most medals (weighted or otherwise)?
As I've mentioned before (and I hope you haven't missed any of my posts), one of the nice things about EvC is that we get to define our own winning conditions. For me, I consider it a win if I learn something or, more rarely, if somebody learns something from me. I also consider a cheer a win. If I wasn't winning something, I probably wouldn't be here.
I think the same applies to the Olympics. Different nations and different groups of people have different winning conditions. As I mentioned earlier, Canadians consider it a win if we do "pretty well". For small nations like Slovenia, any medal is a huge win.
For my money, "most medals" is a pretty trivial win. It's a bit like saying, "I have more trees in my yard than you do." But if you want to go with that, that's fine.
From my viewpoint, considering the events I'm most interested in, Jamaica won the Olympics, hands down.

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Message 177 of 181 (671129)
08-22-2012 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by Straggler
08-21-2012 6:36 PM


Re: Paralympics - How Much Does Anyone Genuinely Care?
I tend to see the Paralympics as something like motor racing - a testing ground for new technology. (That isn't just faster wheelchairs but also better ways of using what you've got and taking care of what you've got.) In my opinion, those sports that constantly improve our capabilities are more "worthy" than, say football, which is really just a game.

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Message 179 of 181 (671138)
08-22-2012 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by New Cat's Eye
08-22-2012 2:06 PM


Re: Paralympics - How Much Does Anyone Genuinely Care?
Catholic Scientist writes:
Unlike hockey, which is just a combination of three activities...
I would classify hockey as a game, as opposed to speed-skating which is a sport.
I saw a game once in which the winning goal was scored in the last few seconds. The losing team protested on the grounds that the puck was pushed into the net. After reviewing the tape, the officials allowed the goal because the scorer had been tripped and only pushed the puck because he was falling at the time. The outcome of the game was decided based on two rather arbitrary rules rather than on anybody's skill.

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ringo
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Message 181 of 181 (671143)
08-22-2012 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by New Cat's Eye
08-22-2012 2:54 PM


Catholic Scientist writes:
The only Olympics that I actually watched were female gymnastics and beach volleyball...
I sense a trend.

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