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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
This should be amusing. The number of things that Peeta Mellark evidently doesn't know about ice ages must surely be equaled only by the number of things Coyote does know about them.
{The "Great Debate" topic this is peanut gallery to - Ice Age is a Product of the Flood (Peeta Mellark and Coyote only) - Adminnemooseus} Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Add link etc. to main "Great Debate" topic.
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Dr Adequae writes: This should be amusing. Amusing like a train wreck. Other than "the flood did it" he hasn't any idea as of yet what he'll be proposing. He'll be making it up as he goes along. It'll be a bunch of "And then this coulda happened, and then that coulda happened" with no evidence or any reasons at all. --Percy
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined:
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any reason why that topic was promoted?
it's pretty clear how it will end.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I am interested to see what arguments the participant will bring up after the first round of exchanges. Were this not a great debate, I agree that the resulting dog-pile would end the discussion in a hurry. But perhaps if Coyote ties one hand behind his back as AdminMoose would prefer, we'll see something new.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
In the hope that Peeta Mellark is educable.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Cloud cover tends to moderate temperatures - making it cooler in Summer, warmer in Winter. It doesn't seem plausible that the limited period of rain in the Flood story could possibly be sufficient to cause an Ice Age in itself.
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
I hope Peeta makes it his goal to argue for scenarios supported by evidence rather than just not physically impossible.
--Percy
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
To paraphrase Henry Drummond from Inherit the Wind, you have the right to hope.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 582 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
percy writes: I hope Peeta makes it his goal to argue for scenarios supported by evidence rather than just not physically impossible. Some historical events can come and go and not leave a trace of evidence. Where is the evidence for the great San francisco earthquake other than historical documents? I cannot remember the name of the egyptian city I saw documented on the history channel, but a whole city moved from one location to the other and left no trace that it was ever there. As you can see, limiting yourself to physical evidence narrows down what you will accept as reality when reality happens to be much bigger.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Some historical events can come and go and not leave a trace of evidence. Where is the evidence for the great San francisco earthquake other than historical documents? I cannot remember the name of the egyptian city I saw documented on the history channel, but a whole city moved from one location to the other and left no trace that it was ever there. As you can see, limiting yourself to physical evidence narrows down what you will accept as reality when reality happens to be much bigger. Sure, but it has to do with what is being claimed and what isn't. If you were trying to make a case for that earthquake happening, then you'd be expected to provide reasons for accepting that it happened. The simple fact that it would be hard to produce the physical evidence of it happening does not increase any confidence that it did in fact happen. And "not physically impossible" doesn't add weight to the claim either. We really do need to see good reasons for supposing the claim actually happened.
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vimesey Member Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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limiting yourself to physical evidence narrows down what you will accept as reality Absolutely right. Whether something, of which there is no physical evidence, is part of reality, is a matter for conjecture. Also, we can infer likelihoods of something being part of reality from other physical evidence, or we can conjecture from imagination or stories. Both approaches are forms of conjecture, but conjecturing from imagination or stories is a much purer form.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1024 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
I cannot remember the name of the egyptian city I saw documented on the history channel, but a whole city moved from one location to the other and left no trace that it was ever there. I very much doubt that this is true. If it left no evidence that it was ever there, how did the makers of the documentary know that it was? Judging by the quality of certain of the programmes shown on the History Channel, I wouldn't put much faith in anything they broadcast.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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Where is the evidence for the great San francisco earthquake other than historical documents? You actually believe there is no physical evidence for this? Really you should do some basic research before you spout crap. You do realize we all have internet connections and can research don't you?
Los Trancos Open Space Preserve I cannot remember the name of the egyptian city I saw documented on the history channel, but a whole city moved from one location to the other and left no trace that it was ever there. And I once saw a flying saucer. If you don't have a clue what you are talking about maybe you should not even bring it up.If there were no traces how do we know it moved. Your statement debunks itself. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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But we have absolute evidence that the Biblical Flood (whichever version of the story you choose) never happened.
Arguing that Ice Ages are the result of something that never happened in the first place seems pretty futile, sad and pitifully silly. Edited by jar, : left out pitifully.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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any reason why that topic was promoted? it's pretty clear how it will end. But it is the journey that is important. I am sure that Coyote will have some really wonderful posts probably dealing with the most recent Pleistocene ice age (at least I hope so). Peeta's posts will no doubt serve as a wonderful jumping off point for some very informative posts.
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