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Author Topic:   The $5,000,000 ID Research Challenge
Dr Adequate
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Message 6 of 285 (671840)
08-30-2012 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Dirk
08-30-2012 8:48 PM


Re: Create life
If I were an ID-ist, I would spend it on trying to create life in the lab. That, in my mind, is their best chance of keeping alive the argument that life can be intelligently designed.

Yeah, it's not really to the point, is it. We can create snowflakes in a laboratory, but this doesn't suggest that they're usually intelligently designed, or constitute evidence for Jack Frost.


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Message 9 of 285 (671850)
08-30-2012 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by NoNukes
08-30-2012 9:20 PM


Re: Keep your money in your pocket. No takers.
The Templeton Foundation say they didn't actually offer any research grants to IDists ... see here for details.
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Message 11 of 285 (671854)
08-30-2012 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by NoNukes
08-30-2012 10:02 PM


Re: Biologics Institute
It's not clear whether they mean real research or just writing nonsense about research done by real scientists. "Research" in the mouth of a creationist usually means: "A literature review, only done by a partisan idiot".
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Message 12 of 285 (671872)
08-31-2012 12:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taq
08-30-2012 12:39 PM


First of all I'd want to buy a small portable secondhand god ...
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Message 40 of 285 (673758)
09-22-2012 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Percy
09-21-2012 10:32 PM


Re: Intelligence
The fallacy in your logic is to conclude that because the only intelligence we know of works within the confines of the laws of science that all intelligence must share that constraint.

"The fallacy in your logic is to conclude that because the only pigs we know of can't fly that all pigs must share that constraint."

That's not a fallacy in logic, that's a correct application of empiricism.


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Message 87 of 285 (681636)
11-27-2012 2:35 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by tesla
11-26-2012 2:31 PM


Re: spend it on space exploration/ Brain research.
You’re going to win this conversation in your own eyes. But you lost. I.D. is a possibility. There is a scientific path to explore the potential. You will never accept that truth.

But I think we all accept that truth. ID is a "possibility". So are pigs with wings. You say there is "a scientific path to explore the potential". So tell us how you would spend five million dollars exploring that potential.


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Message 230 of 285 (735444)
08-15-2014 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 226 by Jackal32
08-14-2014 11:43 AM


Re: The hardware is the software
Apart from anything else, your use of the words hardware and software are just bizarre even as metaphors. No, the role of a protein in a cell is not "akin to software".
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Message 232 of 285 (735491)
08-16-2014 4:31 PM
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08-16-2014 4:13 PM


Re: The hardware is the software
No, mram, sarcasm would have been if I'd said something like "What an excellent metaphor you have chosen! Yes, if the protein is akin to hardware then its role in the cell must be akin to software, just as the role of a computer in a factory is akin to software --- rather than, for example, its software being akin to software, as naive and ignorant people might have supposed. Thank you for enlightening us with your mighty creationist wisdom."
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Message 234 of 285 (735494)
08-16-2014 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by mram10
08-16-2014 4:44 PM


Re: the answer?
I almost thought you were describing the secular science community and their attachment to Darwinism and the theory of evolution. Maybe both sides can put away their love/hate of God and look for truth.

"Almost thought" is an excellent description of what you did.


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Message 236 of 285 (735515)
08-16-2014 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by mram10
08-16-2014 5:33 PM


Re: the answer?
I enjoy your comments that add absolutely nothing to the conversation
I have worked with individuals that like to hear themselves spew vitriol, while adding absolutely nothing of value. Maybe because they feel "inadequate"

Thank you for your demonstration of how to add something to the conversation without spewing vitriol, wait, I'll read that again, your demonstration of shameless hypocrisy.

In your past few posts, you've called NoNukes a "fool" for saying something which you had in fact made up in your head; told me that you were "beginning to question [my] sanity" because I made a simple point which you were too dumb to understand, and addressed jar, a Christian, as follows:

Your close-mindedness is sad. I feel pity for people like you. You allow yourself to be blinded by the fear of finding a God, or admitting there are somethings that we cannot understand.

So let's have no more prissy whining out of you if others also descend to the occasional jibe. It just makes you look like a thin-skinned hypocrite.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Message 243 of 285 (735551)
08-17-2014 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by New Cat's Eye
08-17-2014 5:14 PM


Re: The hardware is the software
Well "spontaneously" seems wrong from that point of view too. It would suggest that amino acids can just assemble into protein chains by themselves, rather than being fastened together by ribosomes.
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Message 246 of 285 (735557)
08-17-2014 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 244 by mram10
08-17-2014 10:32 PM


No arguments here about species evolving. It has limits though. Argue with me all you want on your beliefs, but you need to stop calling it "fact" when you assume we came from elements billions of years ago, with no external help. There is NO evidence to that, simply theory.

This foolishness is not only off the topic of the thread but also does not appear to be a reply to anything anyone has posted. Perhaps if you learned to use the reply button we'd know what you thought you were replying to.


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Message 251 of 285 (735761)
08-23-2014 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by mram10
08-23-2014 6:29 PM


You should still learn to use the reply button. You'll find it at the bottom right of the message you want to reply to. That way, people will know what and whom you're replying to.

Next week maybe I'll teach you some rocket science.


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Message 268 of 285 (769538)
09-22-2015 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 266 by MrIntelligentDesign
09-21-2015 11:57 PM


It's not very specific, is it? What actual experiments would you be doing? What equipment would you need?
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