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The war is plenty warlike. The drone killings in Pakistan and Yemen are taking place in countries that the US is not at war with. Attacking funerals in a foreign sovereign country is not warlike it is terrorist like. I suppose that I could but I never did. I am arguing that the actions of the US gov't in these attacks qualifies as second degree murder. I just said that they were the CIA. My claim is that the US can not legitimately declare war against Afghanistan and use the protections of that state of war to randomly kill people around the globe. Alright, I will then. Yes that's the one.

Wouldn't the reverse be to help and support a radical fundamentalist christian sect that then hijacked 4 airplanes and divebombed them into your skyscapers with the tacit approval of the government?

I am guessing Tangle meant these type of examples:1. Carlos Andreas Perez
2. Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozado
3. Roberto Bravo
4. Luis Posada
5. 13 CIA operatives who abducted Khaled el-Masri
6. CIA station Chief for kidnapping Abu OmarEdited by dronester, : clarity

Yes it would. The US regarded it as an act of war and reacted by invading a country.Should Pakistan now do the same?

The US has not invaded Pakistan.

er, yes; that's rather my point.It hasn't invaded Pakistan, it hasn't declared war on Pakistan but it has used drones to kill people inside Pakistan.

Sorry I'm still lost.

An invasion is complex, expensive and internationally controversial. A declaration of war is a diplomatic nicety with little connection to reality. A simple act of war is a useful compromise.

Pakistan is implicit in aiding and abetting militants from the political faction that participated in the 9/11 attacks, so I would say that the US is justified in drone attacks within Pakistan. I don't think anyone can compare these attacks with what was visited on the US, and not just on 9/11. There were embassy bombings prior to 9/11.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

How can I help?

What is your point?

I'm sure you are aware of the hypocracy exhibited by this behaviour.

Try making your point with different words or examples? You posted"

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It hasn't invaded Pakistan, it hasn't declared war on Pakistan but it has used drones to kill people inside Pakistan.

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What point are you trying to make? What would any of that have to do with the topic?

When you're killing people, whether justifiably or not, a little hypocrisy is just icing on the cake.

Jar, the US is bombing a foreign country without declaring war on it - in the case of Pakistan, a country that it relies on as an ally.It's taking military action inside another sovereign country, killing people it alleges are terrorists and people it admits are innocent civilians.I'm very simply trying to get you to see that that action if it was performed inside the US by foreign agents - like the extreme example of 9/11 - would be regarded by the US as an act of war.The US tends to think that whatever it feels is ok, actually IS ok - then wonders why it gets a little push back from the rest of the world.