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Is God okay with the planet being trashed?

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09-10-2012 11:51 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Ken Fabos
09-10-2012 9:53 PM

My understanding of the message of the Scriptures is that the care of the planet is of huge and eternal importance. The Christian message is that our dimension and God’s heavenly dimension will be brought together in the renewal of all things. In the interim this planet is our responsibility and how it is treated will have eternal consequences.
He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
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Micah 6:8
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09-11-2012 11:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 15 by Ken Fabos
09-11-2012 11:23 PM

Ken Fabos writes:
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GDR may feel a religious obligation to care for the world but does that care rely on science telling him about biodiversity or about the carbon cycle, greenhouse gases and climate?
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My religious views, as an orthodox Christian, don't impact my views on science. As I've said before on this forum I consider science to be a natural theology.
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Global warming is obviously happening. I don't have the knowledge to be able to disagree or agree as to whether global warming is being caused by CO2 emissions. Reducing emissions certainly can't do any harm and it probably will help. My main concern is that we aren't doing enough to prepare for the results of global warming which is going to happen regardless of how much we reduce our CO2 emissions.
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Hope that addresses your concern.
He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
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Micah 6:8
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09-12-2012 2:07 AM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Ken Fabos
09-12-2012 1:14 AM

Ken Fabos writes:
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It seems like thinking like that could be shared between many secular, religious and green religious people with only minor differences.
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The right thing is the right thing regardless of our religious beliefs. IMHO we aren't just responsible for the world as it is today but for the world after all of us are long gone. Having said that, I do have sympathy for those negatively affected when the changes that are required for the future world impact the jobs of lives of those in the present. It's easy to make the hard choices when it isn't one's own life that is being shattered. Some how the pain has to be shared.
He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
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Micah 6:8
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09-12-2012 10:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 19 by Phat
09-12-2012 3:03 PM

Re: Its Not The Planet, Stupid
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In my opinion, the planet itself is not of value. The life on the planet is what we are responsible to protect and preserve to the best of our ability.
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I think that the planet is of immense value. IMHO it is part of our charge to care for it, and for that matter, obviously what we do with the planet now impacts future life on the planet.
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I don't pretend to know how it will all work out but Paul tells us in Ephesians that in the end all things on heaven and all things on earth will be united to form the new world. If it's all things then it matters that we take good care of the place now as it's forever.
He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
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Micah 6:8
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09-12-2012 10:15 PM 		Reply to: Message 22 by Ken Fabos
09-12-2012 8:11 PM

Ethics and truth, and kindness for that matter, are part of what makes us human. When we move away from the model we give up part of our humanity.
He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
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Micah 6:8
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