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nwr
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Message 151 of 308 (673335)
09-18-2012 3:28 PM
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09-18-2012 3:07 PM


I'm just a outsider, but I like to ask: are you all content with this political system?
Hell, no!

Jesus was a liberal hippie

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hooah212002
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Message 152 of 308 (673336)
09-18-2012 3:31 PM
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09-18-2012 3:07 PM


As a European I have trouble understanding how somebody who has made this amount of blunders is still a viable candidate for a presidental race.
Because the people that are going to vote for him anyways, let's say around half the voting population, don't see what he does as blunders. They agree with the shit he says.
Oh, and they don't want a black guy in the WHITE house.
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 153 of 308 (673338)
09-18-2012 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Rahvin
09-18-2012 3:07 PM


Re: Moochers
Nope, you're certainly not the only one.

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crashfrog
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Message 154 of 308 (673339)
09-18-2012 3:39 PM
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09-18-2012 3:07 PM


As a European I have trouble understanding how somebody who has made this amount of blunders is still a viable candidate for a presidental race.
What makes you think he's viable? Nate Silver's giving him an 8% chance of winning.
I mean he's still in the race because he has no choice, he can't drop out because at this point he can't be replaced. The party voted to nominate him, he accepted, and there's no do-over. He's the GOP candidate, end of story. People have donated money to his campaign and, legally, it can't be used for anything but campaign expenses. He literally cannot legally give up. He just shambles on to an almost certain defeat in November, hoping that Obama makes a mistake.
But Obama doesn't make mistakes. His opponents do. It's amazing how people fall all over themselves to let Obama win, isn't it? Jack Ryan? Alan Keyes? John McCain? And now Romney? You just can't make any money betting against Obama. The election was always his to lose, and that's exactly what Obama does not do - commit unforced errors and lose when he should have won.

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Taz
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Message 155 of 308 (673344)
09-18-2012 4:00 PM
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09-18-2012 3:39 PM


crashfrog writes:
What makes you think he's viable? Nate Silver's giving him an 8% chance of winning.
I mean he's still in the race because he has no choice, he can't drop out because at this point he can't be replaced. The party voted to nominate him, he accepted, and there's no do-over. He's the GOP candidate, end of story. People have donated money to his campaign and, legally, it can't be used for anything but campaign expenses. He literally cannot legally give up. He just shambles on to an almost certain defeat in November, hoping that Obama makes a mistake.
But Obama doesn't make mistakes. His opponents do. It's amazing how people fall all over themselves to let Obama win, isn't it? Jack Ryan? Alan Keyes? John McCain? And now Romney? You just can't make any money betting against Obama. The election was always his to lose, and that's exactly what Obama does not do - commit unforced errors and lose when he should have won.
I can sleep again!

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Message 156 of 308 (673345)
09-18-2012 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Rahvin
09-18-2012 3:07 PM


Re: Moochers
I own my own business. It's a small business, no less. I pay a LOT of taxes. I also pay for my own insurance and everything else. So, no I'm not one of these so-called freeloaders either. And I'm voting against Romney. He scares the hell out of me.

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Message 157 of 308 (673347)
09-18-2012 4:05 PM
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09-18-2012 3:39 PM


Nate Silver is giving Romney a 25% chance of winning, not 8%. 8% is the probability that he would win if the election were held today.

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Message 158 of 308 (673349)
09-18-2012 4:07 PM
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09-18-2012 3:31 PM


Paint it Black
hooah212002 writes:
Oh, and they don't want a black guy in the WHITE house.
There's a story in Canadian pseudo-history that the White House was originally painted white because we burned it during the War of 1812 ("we" being British at the time).
quote:
"I wanna see it painted black, painted black
Black as night, black as coal
I wanna see the sun, blotted out from the sky
I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black"

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Message 159 of 308 (673353)
09-18-2012 4:13 PM



  
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Message 160 of 308 (673360)
09-18-2012 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by crashfrog
09-18-2012 3:39 PM


By viable I meant he's still a serious candidate that, although not on a winning road, still has a reasonable amount of support behind him.
To illustrate my point, a week or so ago a ''what would you vote in the US?'' poll was held in some countries in Europe, including here. If I recall correctly, Obama got 80% of the ''votes'', and Rommey about 5%. Of course, this doesn't quite reflect a true election, but Rommey's reputation here is clear.

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nwr
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Message 161 of 308 (673365)
09-18-2012 4:39 PM
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09-18-2012 4:32 PM


To illustrate my point, a week or so ago a ''what would you vote in the US?'' poll was held in some countries in Europe, including here. If I recall correctly, Obama got 80% of the ''votes'', and Rommey about 5%.
My guess is that it would be about the same here --
-- if Obama were not black.
Racism is deeply ingrained and visceral.
Of course, to be realistic, if Obama were not black, the Republicans would not be sounding nearly so insane. They have a insane platform in order to appeal to the racist vote, without directly using racist epithets.

Jesus was a liberal hippie

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ooh-child
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Message 162 of 308 (673395)
09-18-2012 5:55 PM
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09-18-2012 4:39 PM


If Obama weren't black, it'd be about something else since he's the Democrat.
If it had been Hillary elected, we'd have been inundated w/ mysogynistic insanity about another Clinton in the White House. If it had been Edwards, well, we know what would've permiated the brains of conservatives then. If it had been Richardson, then the 'brown skin' stuff would just be adjusted to fit his particular hue & origin.
The conservatives ruling the Republican party have had 'generic democrat' derangment syndrome since Bill Clinton was elected. Just gets hotter every year.

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Message 163 of 308 (673396)
09-18-2012 6:21 PM


Canada for President
OK you can all relax now. The choice is obvious.

  
crashfrog
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Message 164 of 308 (673397)
09-18-2012 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by Kairyu
09-18-2012 4:32 PM


By viable I meant he's still a serious candidate that, although not on a winning road, still has a reasonable amount of support behind him.
Well, he's "the guy" for the Republican Party agenda. Why would people who support that agenda stop supporting him?
To illustrate my point, a week or so ago a ''what would you vote in the US?'' poll was held in some countries in Europe, including here. If I recall correctly, Obama got 80% of the ''votes'', and Rommey about 5%.
Sure, but doesn't Geert Wilders run your Parliament? Sounds like you guys have your own experience with total nutbags winning elections.

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Shield
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Message 165 of 308 (673398)
09-18-2012 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by crashfrog
09-18-2012 6:38 PM


but doesn't Geert Wilders run your Parliament?
No.
Wilders is the Parliamentary group leader of Partij voor de Vrijheid(Party for Freedom). Each party has one.
Edited by rbp, : No reason given.

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