Creation Science In Schools: Give Us A Lesson Plan

It can not be this as this is where I was at when you called for not tabling the point. I didnt know that Nosy an Me really do want the same thing. The work is in progress but is a bit too bslogical so if I could have the mammy razor please... Well something out of this raw short hand WILL be available to be taught onse I get my nose out of its way and work out the remaining techinical issues AND THEN FIGURE OUT the best language to introduce the teaching on an easier to comprehend basis but meanwhile it would be something like this-
Creation Biology: Towards a Unification of Baraminology and MendelismGoogle took off a paper by Dr.Kurt P.Wise from DOTankerbergDOTcom which contained a couple of sentences:
"Baraminology is a new field of science. It is the science of baramins- the study of created kinds. Baraminology will ultimately include the identifying, the classifying, and the naming of baramins. At this ponit it is concentrating on how to identify baramins. Classification and naming will come in the course of time."The following terms (adjectives/nounds) have been proposed for baraminic "identification"."baramin"- Marsh
"true lineage" - Remine
"biological trajectory" Wood/Canvanaugh
"qpo, mono, holo,poly, archea,neo"baramins-WiseIn the following course of terms "Creationary Systematics" "Discontinuity Systematics" "Baraminology"
-----------------Instead of accepting provisionally archeabaramin and polybaramin I present a polar procedure that does all the identification, classification and naming via one recursive algorithmic comparative thought process by yoking the comparative creation biology making/modeling to source of error detection in dispersal vs vicaraince (tests from cladisitc data sets) so USING baraminic grammer to expose biogeographic prejudice for vicariism that is not wholly taxonomic but is assumed so in the simulation wrong used Mendel's Olby developmental bionomial in the plenum that transversality applies to D'Arcy Thompsonian misrepresentation(s) by Gould in morphometric visualization.
Gilmore p 16 "1. Change of variables In order to describe physical problems in R^n, it is useful to set up a coordinate system (x1x2,...xn). Any coordinate system will do." This book sends the reader a view of a baraminic "coordinate system" of baraminology as a part of Discontinuity Systemataitcs applied Panbiogeographically as part of Creationary Systematics in the orbit of a Copernican Sea Change to a possible issue of age and area relative to selection levels being under the control of the solution of equations Lewontin has elsewhere expressed as Coupled Differential Equations of involution.
Gilmore p 16 "If another coordinate system x`1, x`2,...x`n) isestablished" (D`Arcy Thompson Morphomometric all Affine Geometry Objects)" it si possible to transform back and forth between them. So BOTH creation discipline and the disciplinary stricuture of evolutionary theory are used to further this science passing the Lemon Test of the Supreme Court USA. The legal battles between creationists and evolutionists reduces to finding any point p element of R^n at which the Jacobian determinant XXXXX is nonzero.This happens both by the current stage of baraminology transitioning from identificationj to naming and classification and because different cardinalites of infinity divides in subjective use of the morphometric tangent referecence space of any clumped or unclumped morphospace the descriptive (value (without time judgements)) of the catastrophe set, elementally useful used using, infinite induction across the binomail difference of hybrid OR parent PER topography ON EARTH and a change in the Number Class to seperate a zero PLANE grammer of the surface (layer) in real space and time under form-making adjustibility by the kind of biogeography, that is, is different for each taxogeny (by telic means but not necessarily end ontologically) identifiable baramincally with limit point qualification lexicology.This allows a means to determine if statistical tests of Vicariism may have wrongly been done by an all taxonomic vicarrism (transversality across ANY metric) and should instead (not done because of c/e transcendental illusion not being made empirical) have rejected chance dispersal if... The search fo rthe seperatrix however is confined to interfinger if you will any energy of the topological not topographic space of not metaphysical Matchette 'force' of two limit point baraminic element derived SETS (the qualification can lead to quatities should the impression be pressed and not rubbed) even if tranfinite pure math may go another way. These measures"" beyond mrophometrics are presented instantiated by two different number class ordinations from the same database warehouse so crossing only in their geometry (by ordertypes?) the obuject of Rene Thom's BIOPHILOSOPHY not bifurcation math nor physics of complexity.The limit point sets of the differently manifested kinds of baramins in terms of Mendel difference of the country vs garden in hybrids vs parents categories statistically biometric are "read" from number class "pointer' in the electronic version written first and foremost by the baraminologist not the hierarhcihc philosopher of biology without influence directly of statistical testing in the dispersal vs vicariance expermental math unless for instance the tropism involved be actually seperated from the actual gradients so correlated int he same path analysis of cause.Topograpy is generated when the relation of all the baramins (to the polybaramin) is combined witht he interfingered catastrophe set representation of ALL the cricisims of birfucatable applications and IS modeleable assesing Cantor's A,B,C,D,...L real Numbers when the math of a limit of real number sequences is dependent with the limit point of a set instead biologically is linked by cause or correlationof Lebseque "collections". This still permits a "smoothing " of the Galton 'polygon" metaphor and permits indeed by turn Sewall Wright's shifiging balanace theory out of the same data evetiaarily but might suggest reasons to disbelieve species selection while also suggest in a progressive research campagain that compostes panbiogeography and the phsycis and engineering of catatrophe set theory that may be revealing a source of varation left undetected in the datat due to the international resolution of the Mendelic - Biometric difficutlty of isolation from a lingeage continuum. The continual seperation of baraminc lexic grammetology however may not show that some change to tcurrent use of "mutation" is biology is called for. That will depend of on the fits of the data to and in thetwo model approach not a debate about the physical naturalism that is matterially equivalent in the form that remains despite biological change.This result is achieved by having the neobaramin concept contain both signs and symbols for sets but only the symbols are used to demarcate what is presently but choice of "delay vs maxwell" conventions THE CATASTROPHE THOERY SEPERATRIX (presently for any future Mendelism) via rejection of archeabaramin in the algorithmic coding of the loop from polybaramin ( the polybaraminc 3-Space(shortcutted in Gilmore instance p588 "In spite of this, the idea of mapping functions into Euclidean spaces R^n in order to generate a topology is useful and appealing. We use this approach as a hueristic tool. )) to topology via the topography of all baramins. There is no presumption that possibly more than one orbit of life is involved in this program as baraminological lexos seperates (via phylogenetic discontinuties) the database collectivity rather than attempts to unify all the data into one heirarchical anscetralizing directory tree-lineage.The grammer for classifiying, identifying and and naming baraminology comes about by inverting the topology of Wise aned Remine as per Friar's understanding.through a catastrophe set instantiation of the topography which creates the signs and symbols of the terms' lexix writing space making a difference of limit point set signs and catastrophe set symbolsand providing a program to find the seperatrix only on the lexic boundary in the terms' grammetology.I have not got it to the point of developing the texts to be cited.[This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 11-26-2003]

Look you either want this stuff or you dont. I am happy to go my own way. I am one person and I hope others will join. If all you want is chat I am not interested.That is content. take the bold out . I dont care. I risk Percy "stealing" this as music players do their music but there is little risk if you only view it as a "ramble" THIS IS THE REAL THING. I am not mad about you wanting the me to do ALL THE WORK FIRST but I do not do this just to provoke there is real things here if you only learn
Suspend me- I really dont care I have given all I can short of every one haveing all the answers any one wants. If you really only see the purpose of the site to create disparity then take me off the list. I was happy enough to have kept this post to myself but I really did think this is what Dan was asking for.My first actual correspondence to ICR WAS a curriculum in which I used my actual papers from high school science class. I did not dig that stuff up as this is FAR above better than anything ICR has recieved from me so I expected you want to have it here "first". I am tired of trying to find the right place to put my stuff. I agured at length in the past from "IS IT SCIENCE" that this stuff I write IS science. NO ONE FOLLOWED. This IS science and it needs to be brought into the class room. If you cant see that yet yet perhaps now is not my time still still my time will not continue to not exist. NO ONE FOLLOWS TOPICS here we just have more admins suggesting HOW to do the threading.There is ONE thought here and if I break it all I can expect from ANYONE is what NOSY and I just went thru. Get over it. I did.Again if you do not understand me and choose at this time in this sties administration that you feel it necessary to "release" me I have no hard feellings as when ICR did the same?
Go for it.My level of understanding is above that on this board generally but I am not proud to have to so say.
******if you want to move LOUDMOUTH's questions to a new thread, I'll be happy to dicontinue posting in this one haveing said two dimes worth and respond to the substance in that error exception throw forward if you want.[This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 11-18-2003]

I actually have an idea of what one "looks" like but I do not have a scanner to have put the pictures between my last three lines of bold text but as I await a final decision on my status here I will not go any futher until I hear from the admins again. I do not want to leave with
"bad blood". If you look up Friar's article from ICR on baraminiology you can find a set digram of how he ( a turtle man) sees the subseting done. THIS DOES with logic REMANS some constraint on one's visualization of soma but one must be familiar with a lot of flesh to flesh it out. I started to present one theoretical way it can be done IN THE CONTEXT OF actual evolutionary theory which IS NOT what is currently done in BARAMINOLGY. Again let me not start on the geometry if the admins really dont want anything but me to get all of the results before which would negate for me any need to publish the work here. I could do it in CRS, the occasional papers of the baraminology study group etc. I like you guys and I wanted EvC to scoop the field, so if you dont want it and are just "patronizing" me let me know. I'll be Mike's fender and not the guitar string in that case.Having seen what underlying Atlantic space Loudmouth referred to I can say that whatever the Human + Ape Baramin would be it would look like a disfigured LIZARD else the positive use would be clear enough not to need anymore "debate".[This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 11-26-2003]

What does this mean? Is there supposed to be something to respond to here?? I know nothing much about Star Trek and I did not comment on it in the Matrix thread so I can only take this a fictional comment. Please tell me otherwise else that is what I will be forced to conclude. Dan legitimately asked how the plan could be brought down to the high school level. I do not considering relating baramins only to films will work. So please lizard breath show us the Jacobsian Organ you must posses then. I do however not disregard the possiblity that Marsh *must* be respected EVEN if Croizat thought some of the same things as Remine before the late 80s but that WILL NOT be something to be simply directed or produced but rather established by the historical consensus of a majority. This is not random words. Taking Lizard Breath as saying something of substance if it is not essential IS to me.

Elementary and High School--I would have the curriculum include a presentation of:
Chamaeleonidiae as a polybaramin
Agamidae as an apobaramin
and
Iguanidae as either a mono or holo baramin and give the class an excerise to decide which it would choose. Critics would be wrong to insist that even 6th graders can not drag and drop lizard icons under different names after some discussion of what these names may re-present representationally. It is the big baby's in academic chairs how dont know how to use this kind of computer.I do not think that lizards are actually this simply divided but it will be instructive as well for those who do not understand the positive nature of my suggestionz(s) at length. I will now be prosecuting to failure such a view seeing that the positive nature of the the relation of creation and evolution I thought others here besides Z would respond to would be understood in the staement itself. It was not. Part of what is at issue came out with Loudmouth's contribution as that he insisted on the Pangaea (or the scorps could be remanded to speak for humanity thus in a way) that Croizat BEFORE plate tectonics on the base of biogeographic analysis insisted against Wallace in the New World was composite and not trackable back to a single chunked geology. Even should the evolution of such a position hold out in an end this does NOT stop the use of Creationism being taught and done IN THIS HYPOTHESIS in the mean time. I will be showing this in even greater deatail, if you can believe it, on the distinguishing baraminology thread, by insisting to failure that agamids are apobaramins, Old World Chamelons are polybaramins, and iguanids AS MONOBARAMINS (I am guesing the teeth will fall if the holobaramin is substituted here but I need to do a little more work before I can see if this tends to expand or condense the notion of the strech that does not disappear in any assertion of the moveable eye lizards polybaraminically as per Newton etc..) One of the results may be a use of catastrophe theory to diplay what it is that lizards regulate tempertuare objecively to but let me let the arising facts and not my theoretical predication drive what is being approached...Contrary to Ipterich it will become quite transparent how and why I panbiographically do see baramins this way. The intellectual issue that got in the way of you thinking that this stuff really is not elementary is only due (since I could reduce what was being spoken of by interacting with Loudmouth) to the double difficulty of simply comparing two different generations of evolutionary biologists which is not only more work than any specialist has to do but also more than the evolutionist himself does since they do not compare generations, they simply populate a particular one. There may be exceptions - The relevant information sis by Craw in Tuatara Vol. 27, No.1 1984p12-13 "Croizat's work is popularly, but erroneously, associated with the New York scholl of vicariance cladistic biogeography, developed by workers such as Nelson's, Rosen and Platnick. In fact, shortly before his death Croizat, in an as yet unpublished manuscript reviewing Neson and Platnick's well known work SYSTEMATICS AND BIOGEOGRAPHY was uncompromising in his opposition to vicariance biogeography: "Croizat has...worked hard and long to rid biogeography of the 'definitive authority' of Simpson, Mayr, Darlington, etc., and is now working, because of' the very same reasons, against the 'authority' of Nelson and his acolytes. Croizat offers no 'authority', just a method of positive investigation - the PANBIOGEOGRAPHY (ITALICS)." Craw goes on to say that Croizat is not followed more because scientists have evolution in this case as an occupation rather than a passion. I have a pasion tooooo but Cornell prevented me from making it my occupation. That was illegal but they are to big for one me to come up against.[This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 11-26-2003]