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Tangle
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Message 45 of 170 (674534)
09-30-2012 4:02 AM
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09-29-2012 10:07 PM


LimpSpider writes:
So, why all the fanfare now? In a few years, new experiments currently underway ought to measure B-mode polarization directly. However, even if B-mode polarization is found, the conclusion that it must result from inflation will be model-dependent. Inflation is such a foundation for modern big bang cosmogony that it is almost unthinkable among cosmologists that it might not exist. Thus the claim of first discovery of evidence for inflation carries much reward when compared to the risk of eventually being proved wrong.
Oh, and yes. I do understand what he is saying.
Well I don't understand what he's saying about the physics, but a chimp could understand what he's implying about the politics of science. Inflation is yet another conspiracy theory, just like evolution.
Odd how the entirity of science conspires to come up with the wrong answers time after time, yet still manages to make technologies that work. There must be one hellova super smart committe co-ordinating these things - silencing the politically incorrect and rewarding those on message.
Let's just ignore the fact that there's a Nobel Prize awaiting anyone who demonstrates a better solution to thse things eh?

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Message 47 of 170 (674537)
09-30-2012 4:58 AM
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09-30-2012 4:29 AM


LimpSpider writes:
Actually, he’s not saying that it is a conspiratory theory, he’s saying it has no evidence. Different things. Creationists also use the inflation model. It just does not have the evidence to support it. Not in the kind being described.
Right. So when he says this.....
"Inflation is such a foundation for modern big bang cosmogony that it is almost unthinkable among cosmologists that it might not exist. Thus the claim of first discovery of evidence for inflation carries much reward when compared to the risk of eventually being proved wrong"
....he's talking about evidence and not politics?
Cobblers, he saying that the majority have the funding and mind share whilst those with minority views are marginalised. Well that's just tough isn't it? It's the way things work but the beauty of science is that the truth will eventually emerge, because it HAS to - errors in science get fixed because eventually things don't work unless they are.
And if he thinks that a physicist would sit on positive proof of a mainstream theory being wrong because of some weird conspiracy against it, he's out of his mind.
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Message 49 of 170 (674541)
09-30-2012 7:29 AM
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09-30-2012 5:32 AM


So when you said this...
"Actually, he’s not saying that it is a conspiratory theory"
You actually meant that it IS a conspiracy theory.
Forgive me, but it's hard to keep up.
In any case, science can't support errors for long - if the big bang is wrong, it will be demonstrated to be wrong at some point because in the end the evidence will switch against it. Then one of your guys will receive his or her gong from an admiring world.

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