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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Beyond stating that I believe GOD is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen, no, I can't.
In fact I'd go so far as that any god we can describe is almost certainly not GOD. We are limited by being human, we simply can't really know or understand GOD. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
All the other "only one Gods".
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buz writes: Neither have any significant fulfilled prophecy whatsoever, etc. Can you provide any evidence of fulfilled prophecy that first appeared in any of the New Testament?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You have yet to provide a link to any post where you "cited and debated scores of them".
Perhaps this time you can provide a link to a post where you "cited and debated scores of them"?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Folks have always been making up and defining God, some folk go so far as to give their God a personal name like Allah or Zeus or Coyote or Isis. Often the people grow up and send the God to Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends where the God gets a chance to be put up for adoption. For example, Zeus was adopted by the Romans and renamed Jupiter; Allah has been adopted many times and Buz calls him Jehovah. Usually the Gods are pretty flexible and have gotten used to being renamed over time.
It's not just names that evolve over time. Sometimes it seems that a God or Goddess gets tired of their current mate and so change partners. They also evolve over time; for example the God found in Genesis 2&3 is quite different from the God defined in Genesis 1. Different owners have been very, very flexible about giving an adopted God new powers or limitations or friends or enemies or clothes. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped! |
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Almost certainly.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Humans have always sought belief and confirmation of favorable gods and not unfavorable ones. Not true at all. Almost all religions have recognized benign gods, mischievous gods, even down right nasty gods.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Idolatry?
Huh? Remember how YOU are told to pray? "Our Father..."Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Ah, but why should there even be merit badges?
That is actually what Jesus taught. But heading back towards the topic, of course man can define god and has done a bang up job over time. Some of them were even pretty neat like Coyote and Nun and Thor and Ganesha. Edited by jar, : left out "be"Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I can't think of anything they all have in common except being creations of the Human mind. They tell us very little about GOD but much about man.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Of course they would simply because they were identified by a population as a God or god.
No, the GOD I mention as GOD is not really a God or a god. As I said, the one thing they have in common is being Gods or gods, things we as humans have or can describe. Unfortunately, humans are limited by our hardware; we are natural critters and have no experience beyond the natural world. We have no means of testing or even describing anything except in terms of how we experience the natural world. The issue as I have said many times in the past is one of specificity. If we consider a phrase like "Christian God" we can get some general agreement but no universal catholic (in the lower case sense) agreement. This appears to be true of all the various Gods. Now when it comes to gods we find even greater specificity. We can describe Ganesha or Apollo or Thor in pretty great detail, outline their capabilities and limitations, describe their appearance, list their attributes. Very seldom are they a general or universal ultimate. But GOD, if GOD exists is completely beyond anything we find in the Natural World. As long as we too are part of the Natural World we are limited.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That's fine, but be a good atheist.
Forget credit, merit badges, salvation, reward and just do what's right.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Change the questions.
Why are YOU not always fair? How can YOU promote justice? Why are YOU so selfish? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, I am not an atheist.
I've explained my position before to you but I'm willing to yet again if it is necessary.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Like I said, I have no problem repeating myself.
There are three words that are not synonymous, GOD, God and god. As I pointed out in Message 93 quote: God(s) and god(s) are human constructs. The have the attributes we as humans assign to them. God(s) are less specific than god(s) as I pointed out. GOD though, if GOD exists is beyond human understanding. Humans are limited to understanding or experiencing only that which is natural. Edited by jar, : fix link to previous postAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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