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nator
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Message 1 of 49 (67067)
11-17-2003 12:00 PM


...;A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right", by Al Franken.
Oh, man, is this a good book.

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nator
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Message 24 of 49 (67511)
11-18-2003 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Mammuthus
11-18-2003 4:34 AM


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The only problem with Franken's book is it starts out really funny but then as you think about the content, it really is not very funny at all and in fact what it says about the U.S. today is sadly accurate and horrible.
I had the exact same emotional reaction.
It's kind of the point, though.
Somebody has to tell us.

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nator
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Message 25 of 49 (67519)
11-18-2003 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Lizard Breath
11-18-2003 2:37 PM


Re: Big fat idiot,
quote:
Now I'm sure he has tempered his judgements concerning those caught in drug abuse situations since his own experience with it. People do learn and change from time to time and is not limited to liberals.
Yeah, as soon as something happens to HIM, he changes.
It is far more often the conservatives who are shown to be the hypocrites.
Rush was a big dope fiend, and was possibly dealing out of his home while sumultaneously condemning drug users and saying that they should all go to jail.
Bennett went on and on with his self-righteous "Book of Virtues", yet was found to have racked up large gambling debts.
Liberals tend to be better able to put themselves in others' shoes; they tend to be able to feel compassion for other people and think, "There, but for the grace of God, go I."
quote:
I bet those 5 weeks gave him lots of time to eat crow buffet as he replayed some of his statements.
I wouldn't be so sure. I'll bet he wouldn't have thought about his statements at all if they hadn't been handed back to him on a platter.
He, along with most of the current gaggle of conservative talk show hosts, is not particularly interested in accuracy or in doing things like research.
quote:
Even though he admits to being powerless over the drug he was using, he still would be against the idea passing out clean needles to heroine addicts.
Then he's an idiot.

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nator
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Message 26 of 49 (67521)
11-18-2003 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Lizard Breath
11-18-2003 3:15 PM


Re: Party line
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I view much of what he says as something to ponder and find that the conservative points he makes concerning morality are close to my own.
Yet, he is a liar.
Do you think lying is moral?
He is also very sloppy and presents material in an intentionally misleading way in order to advance the agenda of the Radical Right wing of the Republican Party.
do you think this is moral behavior as well?
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