Can You define God?

So you claim.But where have I said that GOD is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen.I believe I've been very consistent in saying that is simply my belief and NOT what GOD actually is.

GOD, if GOD exists, really is different than being natural. Since I am just a human living in the natural world how can I say what being other than natural really is?

I might well be wrong. But for now, it's the best I can do.

Okay, I have no problem if that is what you think.

All of the Gods or gods.The difference is between belief or assertion and actuality.That's both the difference and the problem.As long as I am simply human and existing within this world I can't even imagine anyway to test something that really was supernatural. We can test to determine if something is not supernatural but I see no way to determine that something really is supernatural.Which also should answer your next post GOD, if GOD exists would really be supernatural, not because you or I believe or assert or claim that it is supernatural but rather because it IS supernatural.

I think I've answered that several times for you but I'm willing to try again.The answer is the difference between actually being the thing and simply being asserted to be the thing; the difference between the map and the territory.Yahweh is a good example; Yahweh changes and evolves over time as human ideas about gods evolve but throughout most of that evolution, even in the relatively late example of the god found in Genesis 1, we still see human characteristics. The much older god found in Genesis 2&3 is far more like a King or Prince, powerful, commanding powerful servants, able to pass decrees and enforce them. But it still creates by hand, is learning on the job, can be fearful and unsure, compassionate but stern.Thor and Zeus and Yahweh are human constructs, caricatures, attempts to explain the (at the time) unexplainable.All the Gods and gods are just that, human attempts to explain the unexplainable.But GOD, if GOD exists, would be the reality.

Of course you can and humans are very good at it, we just make shit up or try to describe it in terms of things we can know.As I have said, I see no way to determine if something IS supernatural as long as I am simply a living human.I am open to suggestions though.

I agree that Voldermort is a fictional character that has been labeled as being supernatural.But I also have absolutely no idea what real supernatural is or means.

But I did show my method, I defined the three terms.

The clue is also pretty worthless.Yes, we can assert that something is supernatural but what does that have to do with whether or not the thing is supernatural?I have never said that humans can't make stuff up.I've also covered why I can't define something as supernatural; I'm human, I don't know or even have a clue how I could ever determine that something was actually supernatural.

But I have never suggested that I think you should consider my posts as "worthy of any more merit, consideration or credence than any "unknowable" entity I can conceive of and put forward as real".But you are useful as a tool to allow me to post my beliefs.

But I have explained how I came up with the nuance; I looked at the God(s) and god(s) that humans have created over the years and I found that there were stages that basically involved the detail of the descriptions.The gods seem to be pretty well defined, for example the god found in the early Genesis stories is very human, looks human walks around, talks and eats, wrestles with humans and even when he cheats cannot overcome the human.At the next level we find the "Christian God" as an example, one that is only vaguely defined, formless incorporating paradoxes like the Trinity.But they were all based on things humans were familiar with whether we were talking about Thor or Coyote or Nun or Ganesha.

Well, I've answered all these questions many times in this thread but I don't mind trying yet again.What I have posted in this thread is a factual representation of my beliefs and a response to the topic of whether or not God can be defined.As I have said before, asserting that something is supernatural and the thing actually being supernatural are two entirely different things.

Please present evidence that I have ever made such a claim.

Okay, if that is what you believe then that is fine with me.But it is not what I believe.I believe that any God or god that we can discuss, define or describe is almost certainly not GOD.What GOD is, an entity, a group, a committee, a force, an essence... I honestly have no idea. Is it the One True GOD or GOD(s) or something I cannot even imagine? Who knows. By being other than natural it is beyond my capability as a human to describe.The other God(s) and god(s) are not flawed interpretations, they are the best interpretations a people made based on their culture and society.For example I am a Christian and so subscribe to a Christian interpretation, worship a Christian concept of God. I understand that it is but an approximation of the reality but it's the path I have chosen.