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Panda
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Message 3 of 171 (676263)
10-21-2012 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by eclectic1993
10-20-2012 11:47 PM


No faith
Hello and welcome to EvC
eclectic writes:
What 'holes in your understanding of origins (bangers and toe) have you had to accept by faith? Just because you use faith to fill in the gaps doesn't mean it is bad science or not true. For now, given our clearest empirical understanding of origins, what do you accept on faith?
In science, you don't have to accept anything on faith - there is no "science of the gaps".
You should not fill in the gaps with faith - there should be a definite and rational justification for any claim (with as much evidence as possible to support that claim).
If there is a gap which cannot be filled, then we should say "We don't know yet".

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 46 of 171 (676732)
10-25-2012 5:26 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-25-2012 5:15 AM


Mad writes:
Try Brig Klyce
Yes.
When wanting to know about astrobiology, it is always best to learn from an architect who runs a laundrette.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 53 of 171 (676740)
10-25-2012 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-25-2012 6:01 AM


Mad writes:
It's better than learning astrobiology from Panda's Thumby The Dogmatist. He is an amateur and that means he spent twenty years studying it for love. You may have a paid position and a diploma so are doing it for the belly and out of peer pressure. Vast difference.
Show your posts to a friend/relative - ask them what they think.
You cannot be helped until you admit that you have a problem.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 56 of 171 (676753)
10-25-2012 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-25-2012 8:19 AM


Re: engage with people who are not actually insane.
Mad writes:
Many implies a number.
You cannot be helped until you admit that you have a problem.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 57 of 171 (676755)
10-25-2012 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-25-2012 8:34 AM


Mad writes:
You imagine I must have friends and relatives who think like yourself so upon reading what I write here are bound to decide that my mocking your dogma and second-hand opinions on physics is a sign of madness, so will let me know that in no uncertain terms. Your assumptions are unwarranted. Why would I need boring friends like that? No reason.
Show your posts to a friend/relative - ask them what they think.
You cannot be helped until you admit that you have a problem.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 59 of 171 (676760)
10-25-2012 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-25-2012 8:41 AM


Re: engage with people who are not actually insane.
Mad writes:
Quantity implies a finite number.
No.
Show your posts to a friend/relative - ask them what they think.
You cannot be helped until you admit that you have a problem.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 61 of 171 (676763)
10-25-2012 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-25-2012 8:34 AM


Lonely
Mad writes:
You imagine I must have friends and relatives who think like yourself so upon reading what I write here are bound to decide that my mocking your dogma and second-hand opinions on physics is a sign of madness, so will let me know that in no uncertain terms. Your assumptions are unwarranted. Why would I need boring friends like that? No reason.
Re-reading this, I see that you do not actually have any friends or relatives in your life that you could show your posts to.
This explains how you have managed to drift into madness, with no-one to help you realise.
You cannot be helped until you admit that you have a problem.
Mad writes:
Otherwise, madness is other people's problem, not any problem of the mad. It inconveniences other people first of all like any bad or criminal behaviour. The mad and bad are likely to be happy to be just like they are. So you should have written - show what your write to your relatives and friends as I hope they may have problems with it.
This is a step in the right direction.
It appears from this post that you might possibly realise that there is a gap between you and reality.
You cannot be helped until you admit that you have a problem.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 64 of 171 (676770)
10-25-2012 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-25-2012 9:06 AM


Re: engage with people who are not actually insane.
Mad writes:
No is no good. You need to back it up with reasoning.
How many? Twenty three. Silly obstinate Panda's Thumby.
What is the quantity of positive integers that exist?
You cannot be helped until you admit that you have a problem.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 68 of 171 (676806)
10-25-2012 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-25-2012 11:28 AM


Re: engage with people who are not actually insane.
Mad writes:
That is self-referential, silly. Each integer expresses a quantity. So you are asking what is the quantity of quantities.
No, I am asking how many positive integers there are.
It is not my fault if you cannot answer without facing your own delusions.
You cannot be helped until you admit that you have a problem.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 138 of 171 (677671)
10-31-2012 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-31-2012 1:31 PM


Re: light waves
Mad writes:
wave is what something does.
The word you are looking for is 'verb'.
But, unfortunately for you, 'wave' is also a noun.
Or in your parlance: "wave is what we call it."
Mad writes:
An act needs an actor.
...and those are both nouns.
With your failure to grasp even the most basic aspects of English, it is no surprise that your posts read like the inane scribblings of a brain-damaged marmot.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 146 of 171 (677700)
10-31-2012 11:52 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Alfred Maddenstein
10-31-2012 9:42 PM


Re: light waves
Mad writes:
For the purposes of poetry and religion only both love and a lover are nouns.
Wrong.
'Poetry' and 'religion' are also nouns.
And so are many other words related to poetry and religion.
Only a crazy person would claim otherwise.
Mad writes:
All the pop phyz religion is based on is a bunch of such exceptions and that is why they have the fluctuating nothing of the Big Bunk acting to create the Universe and the rest of the nonsense you are fed daily by the popphyz stars. You are happy to swallow their crap and to fake understanding, they are glad to fake communicating an explanation in order to get their upkeep in exchange. So every one is happy.
And we are back to your inane scribblings.
Your grasp of English is embarrassing.
If only you had a friend who could look at your posts and tell you what a horrible confused mess they are.
But alas, from your own admission, you don't have any.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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From: UK
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Message 152 of 171 (677720)
11-01-2012 6:48 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Alfred Maddenstein
11-01-2012 12:25 AM


Re: light waves
Mad writes:
Of course, all those are nouns as grammatical category.
There are no other categories when talking about nouns.
Mad writes:
Love though is an abstraction devoid of physical properties and only a lover is a physical object that can move and love. Love does not belong in physics. Lovers can wave, love cannot do that other than in poetry. Love is an abstraction denoting the various actions of lovers. Simple.
Can you grasp the difference or your skull is too thick for that?
Since no-one really understands what you are saying, it stands to reason that the problem lies with you.
The only knowledge that can be gleaned from your repeated posts of "It is not ME!! It is everyone else!!" is that you are both mad by name and mad by nature.
Mad writes:
My grasp of English may be poor or may be not.
Do you not know?
Are you unable to tell how bad your English is?
Well, then let me help you: your English is dreadful. I repeat: you should be embarrassed.
Perhaps there is someone at your care-home that can confirm this.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Posts: 2688
From: UK
Joined: 10-04-2010


Message 167 of 171 (677855)
11-02-2012 12:01 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by Alfred Maddenstein
11-01-2012 11:42 PM


Re: light waves
*deleted by Panda*
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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