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Theodoric
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Message 31 of 164 (667597)
07-10-2012 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Panda
07-09-2012 5:37 PM


Re: And Other Reasons there's no Snow in January
In the UK we've had no summer. All we have had is rain and more rain.
Which is completely consistent with the science showing we are experiencing global climate change.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 133 of 164 (677805)
11-01-2012 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by foreveryoung
11-01-2012 12:30 PM


Climate scientists who have graduated college, do have an agenda or already had their mind made up before they went to college, otherwise any paper they published that severely contradicted current CO2 dogma would be denied.
And what is this agenda? Please provide some sort of evidence for this assertion?
Is there a conspiracy? If so why? Who is leading it?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 139 of 164 (677829)
11-01-2012 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by foreveryoung
11-01-2012 6:38 PM


Not only will we survive it; we will thrive in it.
Except for some billions of people.
There will be greater food production and a greater diversity of new species.
By what reasoning do you reach this conclusion.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Message 146 of 164 (677836)
11-01-2012 7:07 PM
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11-01-2012 6:49 PM


Re: Thrive???????
Animals need oxygen to live so if oxygen in atmosphere increased animals would do even better?
Do you realize that not all plant life is beneficial for human existence? DO you not think agriculture will be affected drastically? More carbon dioxide is not going to mean better crop yields. You might want to take a class on botany while your at it. Plants need much more than CO2 to thrive.
Climate myths: Higher CO2 levels will boost plant growth and food production
You really need to look into things before you open your mouth.

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Message 148 of 164 (677838)
11-01-2012 7:11 PM
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11-01-2012 6:46 PM


Why would billions of people necessarily die? Plants thrive on CO2. More carbon dioxide, more plants, more plants, more food.
Are you really that simple?
First of all I did not say die, so quit misrepresenting what I say. Billions will not thrive.
Ocean levels rise, billions displaced. Agriculture will be fundamentally changed. Where something grew well before it might not in future. Do you know anything about wheat? Rapeseed? Corn? How about trees?.
More carbon dioxide, more plants, more plants, more food.
You really dont have much more than simple thoughts do you. No more CO2 does not mean more plants and if it does more plants does not mean more food.
Read about the subject.

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Theodoric
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Message 155 of 164 (677878)
11-02-2012 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by foreveryoung
11-01-2012 12:30 PM


Lindzen
quote:
Lindzen first published this "iris" theory in 2001, and offered more support in a 2009 paper, but today "most mainstream researchers consider Dr. Lindzen’s theory discredited." Dr. Lindzen acknowledged that the 2009 paper contained some stupid mistakes in his handling of the satellite data. It was just embarrassing, he said in an interview. The technical details of satellite measurements are really sort of grotesque. .
Source
Lindzen Illusions
Misrepresentation from Lindzen
As for Spencer his claims have all been debunked.. He is an IDer that is letting his religious views affect his science. An easy web search will show counters by many scientists against his views. Try reading a few. You are not being scientific. You have come to a conclusion and are looking for evidence to support it.
Read both sides with an open mind. Look at the science not the spin.
Spencer is a crank that has been shown to be wrong by numerous people. His conclusions do not stand up to the evidence.
Edited by Theodoric, : wrong name on last paragraph

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Message 162 of 164 (677915)
11-02-2012 2:41 PM


Bump for Foreveryoung
You made some outrageous claims inMessage 128 that I questioned in Message 133
Me writes:
Foreveryoung writes:
Climate scientists who have graduated college, do have an agenda or already had their mind made up before they went to college, otherwise any paper they published that severely contradicted current CO2 dogma would be denied.
And what is this agenda? Please provide some sort of evidence for this assertion?
Is there a conspiracy? If so why? Who is leading it?
Please address this with some sort of evidence. You merely claiming this does not suffice.
Or do you not have any evidence but again just something you are parroting?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

  
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