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jar
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Message 61 of 203 (678308)
11-06-2012 11:04 PM


Headline:
Dewey wins.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

  
Taq
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Message 62 of 203 (678310)
11-06-2012 11:14 PM


We did it.

  
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Message 63 of 203 (678312)
11-06-2012 11:27 PM


Split family strategy a complete failure.
Last election the NoNukes family established residence in Virginia thus leading to an Obama win of that state an and electoral college monster win for Obama.
This election, I left my newly of voting age son in VA while I moved back to North Carolina. The resulting split state voting resulted in a loss of both North Carolina and Virginia to Romney. In short, I apologize for almost single handedly making the election close. As a result, those of us who want to be sure about the results are probably gonna half to stay up an hour or so more.
I apologize to all of your bosses for the resultant loss of tomorrow's productivity.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

  
hooah212002
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Message 64 of 203 (678313)
11-06-2012 11:35 PM


CHTULHU IS VICTORIOUS. DESTRUCTION IS IMMINENT. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

  
onifre
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Message 65 of 203 (678314)
11-07-2012 12:01 AM


Obama and Colorado
You're welcome, the rest of the world.
And on a side note, Colorado just brought tears to my eyes legalizing recreational use of marijuana.
- Oni

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Theodoric
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Message 66 of 203 (678315)
11-07-2012 12:09 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by onifre
11-07-2012 12:01 AM


Re: Obama and Colorado
Hit a oney for me.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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onifre
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Message 67 of 203 (678316)
11-07-2012 12:17 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Theodoric
11-07-2012 12:09 AM


Re: Obama and Colorado
Will do. And add one more for the stoners, Washington legalizes it for rec use too.
- Oni

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hooah212002
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Message 68 of 203 (678319)
11-07-2012 12:44 AM


The electoral college is FUCKED and needs to go the way of the dodo bird (but it was fine in 2000).

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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anglagard
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Message 69 of 203 (678321)
11-07-2012 1:33 AM


To Sleep, Perchance to Dream
I stayed up late even though work beckons, but I think I will sleep well tonight.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

  
anglagard
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Message 70 of 203 (678322)
11-07-2012 1:58 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by onifre
11-07-2012 12:17 AM


Re: Obama and Colorado
May the dismantling of the police state begin.

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AZPaul3
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Message 71 of 203 (678323)
11-07-2012 2:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle
11-05-2012 1:35 PM


Please.
Granted.

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Tangle
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Message 72 of 203 (678327)
11-07-2012 3:10 AM


Maybe there is a god after all.
Many thanks,
The Rest of the World.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

  
caffeine
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Message 73 of 203 (678328)
11-07-2012 3:43 AM


A view from the rest of the world
I was thinking about this the other day, and I realise that I know literally nobody who wanted Romney to win. People who don't like Obama - sure; even people who actively despise Obama and consider him a force of evil, but they're generally either on the far left or crazed conspiracy theorists for whom the Republican Party is not an improvement. Admittedly, my circle of acquaintances is hardly a representative sample of Europe, but it feels here that even the right prefer Obama to Romney.
Is this still lag from Bush's overwhelming unpopularity or the result of the Republican's recent pandering to the more extreme of their supporters?

  
Coyote
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Message 74 of 203 (678329)
11-07-2012 3:58 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by Tempe 12ft Chicken
11-06-2012 12:23 PM


On the election...
You have made a very good post.
Let me respond to your post and perhaps to many others all at once.
I am not thrilled with the outcome of the election, but it is what it is and I'll live with it.
There are many things on the right I am not thrilled with--the socons particularly. What I prefer might be best referred to as rational libertarianism, perhaps a very minor choice now-a-days.
But there comes a point where the electorate can't continue to vote for bread and circuses. As Margaret Thatcher is reported to have said, "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
And a more detailed quote from Heinlein:
The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’
‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invaderthe barbarians enter Rome.
Robert A. Heinlein
Now I guess we'll see what the next four years will bring.

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caffeine
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Message 75 of 203 (678331)
11-07-2012 4:12 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Coyote
11-07-2012 3:58 AM


Voting the state to death
It is a common and tired mantra that democracy is dangerous because the people will only ever vote themselves more and more bread and circuses in an unstoppable wave until society collapses. The idea falls down on the basis that it's one of those ideas thought up in the quiet of a living room that refuses to expose itself to the real world for investigation.
The trend across European democracies since the 1980s has been the reduction of social spending and limitations on the welfare state. Democratically elected politicians, like Margaret Thatcher, promised to get rid of some of our bread and circuses, and they did so. Democratic socialism is no longer a mainstream political force, with most of Europe's centre-left parties shifting to the right.
There is no unstoppable trend.

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