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quicksink
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Message 1 of 65 (6729)
03-13-2002 3:59 AM


Most sane creationists claim that the continents split during the Great Flood.
so may I ask this:
can you demonstrate that it would be possible for the Atlantic to spread at a rate of 1/2 mile per hour?

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Message 8 of 65 (6788)
03-14-2002 4:04 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by TrueCreation
03-13-2002 4:16 PM


so TC- where is your evidence that this kind of miraculously rapid continental drift (which would have caused massive tsunamis that would have most likely destroyed the ark)was feasible, and why it has never been observed.
I think creationism's fate is literally sealed below the permafrost of the Antarctic, however. If we could only get to the fossils, we could determine whether there were indeed any modern animals living on the continent. If there weren't, then we could assume that all life ceased to exist on the continent after it drifted too far south to support organisms.

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Message 10 of 65 (6814)
03-14-2002 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Joe Meert
03-14-2002 11:40 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Joe Meert:
There are some serious physical problems with such rates
no there aren't- in the magical eorld of creationism, anything is possible

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Message 11 of 65 (6878)
03-14-2002 11:57 PM


i'd like to push this topic
someone demonstrate that this kind of drift is possible, and the mechanism driving it.

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Message 12 of 65 (6985)
03-16-2002 2:47 AM


pushing (again)

  
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Message 25 of 65 (7196)
03-18-2002 4:31 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by TrueCreation
03-16-2002 10:27 PM


C'mon TC- squashing up a timeline is not sufficient.
Science derives its timeline of Earth through a vast variety of corroborating methods of dating and gological analysis. You attempt to disprove these methods that bind you. when you "successfully achieve this quest", you are free to make whatever changes you like to the geological timeline.
Of course, this is not in the slightest sufficient. You cannot simply thros things out without evidence. You cannot tell me that the continents split in a year or so, without demonstrating that this is possible, or even probable. You haven't a single dating method that proves your timescale, not a single fossil that defies evolutionary explanation, and not a single shread of evidence to indicate that
a) civilizations were built only after the flood
b) polar flips, which would have without doubt caused an ecological disaster of unimaginable magnitude accurred rapidly a few thousand years ago
c) the continents could have separated with unimaginable speed.
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
My dare to you is to prove that the continents could have split at the suggested speed.

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Message 28 of 65 (7213)
03-18-2002 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Joe Meert
03-18-2002 7:30 AM


Estimates and dating methods put the last "literal" polar flip at about 780,000 years ago, right? Many claim that the next is long overdue.
There is little doubt that these polar flips occurred, although we are yet to explain their nature. The creationists can either deny their existence, or use evidence to accomodate these phenomenas into the 10,000 year creationist model.
I'm asking a creationist to accuston the flip with their theories. It could get a little messy.

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Message 30 of 65 (7218)
03-18-2002 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Joe Meert
03-18-2002 9:46 AM


so there were no events where the planet flipped around? I thought there was conclusive evidence, but I guess I was listening to heresy.
But how do creationists squash all these magnetic flips, or whatever you'd like to call them, into a tiny frame of time?
thanks for the clarification
ps- can you comment on my post in "Evolution in the Antarctic"?
thanks

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Message 33 of 65 (7276)
03-18-2002 11:08 PM


push

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