States petition for secession

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There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoyevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people

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Rules for Radicals - WikipediaLOL... sort of reminds me of a few things Che Guevara said. (going to read this asap)ABE, I have no objections.Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

I always assumed Saul Alinsky was some kind of conservative, because conservatives are the only people who still talk about him.

Is there any post in this thread that implies anyone would object? Personally I think the secession petitions are hilarious and that the right response from the White House should be "Go for it!".

Texans have always wanted a taller border fence. I say we start building it at the northern border of Texas. If Oklahoma wants to join them I say let'em.ABE: Perhaps they can allow Austin to remain independent as liberal oasis? Kind of like the Vatican, only completely different?Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Surprisingly Texas is not one of the big supporters of the border fence, at least those sections along the border are not strong supporters. But it is also the most liberal area of the Texas.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title.

Folks in Texas might want to mull over what happens to oil producing theocracies these days.

No objection at all: the right has been radical far longer than the left.

And if the US sends Ambassador Glaspie to Texas then Louisiana had better move their troops to the border.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

Both of them?We must have a Dean somewhere who could draw a defensive perimeter that excludes The Republic of Texas.Mexico will understand.

I think they're actually following the instructions of his lesser-known volume "Rules For Conservatives", in which he urges them to behave like whiny losers so that the left can mock them. As Alinsky put it in this seminal but much-neglected work:

Let them all secede then invade and bring the gift of democracy to the poor wretches. The economy will be booming in no time. Boeing and Haliburton will have a job for everyone. Good times ahead.

You mean like in the spirit of this petition?

And in this case what is the right that has been slightly infringed?I see the petitions as a pretty funny way of blowing off steam. The administration can dismiss the petitions fairly easily.

You do not have to be a US citizen to enlisted in the armed services. However, you do have to be a US citizen to be a commissioned officer (federal Title 10 law prohibits non-citizens from being commissioned officers). Also, you cannot enlist if you are an illegal alien (though I am sure some slip through the cracks). With a minefield, moat with crocodiles, and automated machine gun placements.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

Many Citizens feel that Federal Government Regulations are hurting the economy and their quality of life in my city. If one state was to leave, it would bring other states into questioning such a value, and turn into a mess really quickly.I believe that what we need is lawmakers and representatives of the Federal government to actually address CITIZEN needs of protection for rights of Life, Liberty, and pursuit of happiness.The federal government is failing citizens in protecting those 'rights' which are not very well defined.Texas is a Lucrative state, holding a lot of gas and oil refineries and a strong economy, losing it as part of the union would be a critical blow to U.S. economic strength, especially since a lot of states are not doing so well.But...thats just my personal opinion.