The $5,000,000 ID Research Challenge

Perhaps there is a species that is more advanced than the human race on another planet. Maybe that species could shed light on some of our ignorance, or even have higher capabilities of consciousness that human minds cannot even imagine.Dump the money into designing ships and satellites to head for the earth-like planets we are discovering, dump it into light-speed research. Basically: dump it into space.The only other way to research possibilities of discovering ID truth is to better understand our own consciousness. So it could also be dumped into brain research, and brain mapping. Maybe we could learn to ‘read’ brain waves via understanding how our brains record and relay information so well, that we could both read or write to a brain from a moderate distance. Maybe being able to do so would open the door to communication with an intelligence that is distant, yet still communicable with the right understanding.So, there you have it. That’s what I would do if I was advocating or performing research on ID.

No. I.D. is loosly defined. So since everyone wants to play with the definition and argue that, I would like to supply a definition that supports my argument.That Definition is simply: The universe was designed to operate in the order it does, including all dynamics of evolutions, the physical boundaries of mass and it's relativity to other energies and masses.Of course the definition would require a 'designer' of unknown and perhaps unfathamable power and ability next to human abilities.My argument would imply that the potential for such a thing, and even the potential for the idea of this universe being a design by a greater being, is true.That: for those who wish to research science and life to try to ascertain the truth; should target work done to understand consciousness and expand on that. Know the brain and energy transfers and recording methods and break the code of brain communication within itself.What will the research yield? Who knows? That’s why it's called 'research'.Also--if you’re a science geek--who doesn't like star trek, eh? Maybe there is a Vulcan of sorts out there. It’s worth seeking.So what would be wrong with a few billion worshipers of thier God doing what they have always done and seek God? Let them seek God with the greatest tools of mankind in understanding the world we inhabit. I believe that is the tools of science.Don't tell me you would turn down five million dollars to experiment on solar sail capabilities? If that money came from churches or the pope, or Buddhists, or various protestants, what would that matter?

Are you suggesting the brain is not a direct part of the world we inhabit?

The human brain is a very real part of the world we inhabit, in fact it is through that tool that every living species has the power to think, to feel, to investigate, and to remember. Without your brain, you would not know the world around you even existed.Science has many researches in the field, from those who study to map cognitive functions and fight brain disorders, to scientist creating implants that will operate prosthetic limbs.There is a lot yet to know about the brain and how thoughts and ideas are formed. the mystery of the human brain--which is the greatest work of engineering ever found in natural systems--is slowly being understood. Monkeys are made smarter, and human behavior is being better understood, even to the point that some fear mind control.Whatever you may think of your own brain, it is your brain that enables you to think. and scientists all over the world are very interested in making that process better.Edited by tesla, : missed a / in [/qs]Edited by tesla, : missed a / in [/qs]

You know what I meant. You don't think about possibilities of consciousness? The reason to look to the brain for answers concerning intelligent design is because intelligence denotes consciousness, which as far as I know requires a brain. The more we understand that system of our world, the better chance we have of seeing if it is possible on larger scales.Do you follow me? Or are you just being argumentative?

No. My proposal is to study the brain to better understand consciousness in hopes new knowledge will shed light on possibilities of greater consciousness, and how to look for it.Edited by tesla, : No reason given.

Until more information about our universe is known, there isn't anything you could do to begin researching such a question. The best thing for now is better understand consciousness and hope that data proves useful to the ends of discovering the potential designer. The second best thing is figuring out higher speed space travel and better waves of interstellar living or extra-planetary living. Doing those kinds of things may one day lead to enough information to ask that question again. The money isn't for them to support claims. the money is for scientists to explore potentials. Ah, but if solar sails are a part of the puzzle to the end goal, then it's a required investment. Nobody can explore space without equipment to explore it. And nobody needed to make an atom of gold to verify the Higgs Bosen.You can't answer a question without taking the path to the answer. You can't do calculus without knowing algebra.

Could you repost your requirements for the challenge, including any modifications you have made through discussion?

Well, my belief is more that in order to understand the past, we need more capabilities to see it as it really is first. I think in the future, we could find a key piece of physics to make the past more visible, through understanding what we inhabit as is now.

There are some people that believe in the six foot tall rabbit. What we believe personally is what matters. I'm not sure. But I can point out the areas I have already stated would be good areas to begin designing research experiments, and the question to be answered.1. Brain research to understand how memories are written, stored and accessed as accurate information. (Understanding consciousness and awareness to give insight on possibilities of greater awareness or state of consciousness)2. Explore space. Maybe a more evolved species is out there.

Message 44. Tools for the various fields would be tools related to the cause, which would be costly and numerous. due to that, the chosen researcher would have to detail the requirements of lab for their specific research needs, be it space travel engines and mechanisms, or brain scanning and mapping equipment with advanced statistical capabilities.

It is not that simple to say that...For instance: The plan of researching if it was possible to land a man on the moon required first understanding if we could leave the earth’s atmosphere safely.

‘If’ is a very big word. A hypothesis is still a guess, and a fact is arguably only a fact because of a majority agreeing with an interpretation of a data set. You believe what you choose to believe because you have trusted the source of the information, and the interpretation of the results. That does not mean there are not any mistakes in the interpretations of what the data actually models of the behaviors.You choose to believe, and no one else's belief will trump that. In my opinion, if this universe was the outcome of a carefully balanced set of rules set in place by a very careful entity: then any research of how this universe works: is research of Intelligent Design.But 'if' as I said before, is a very strong word. if one is going to tailor their research to examine I.D. then the research will have to be in understanding better the areas that target the 'intelligence' of intelligent design. One must look for greater being, and understand consciousness. Since that is not yet understood fully, that is where someone starts.Now one must also be looking at real data. Not imaginations. Which means: one needs to physically see what an imagination is on its atomic and chemical levels.And since we do not have very strong interstellar capabilities: to search space for greater 'being', there needs to be better ways of navigating such large distances.What I'm proposing is actual research into I.D. probability within science, not some dive into religion to look for answers to those questions, because I've done that: and do not have any real data to examine.Edited by tesla, : added word:set

And in testing a hypothesis that consciousness is simply a response to an algorithm associated with the bodies needs for survival can be tested to find out whether or not there is actually some outside influence on consciousness and how it works.You could also find the same data testing the hypothesis that there is an outside influence on consciousness besides just the body and direct experience of the individual.Same data, same method of research needed: different approach in the question.In the end both questions will aid in the understanding of consciousness and shed light on many questions.

The question in I.D. isn't that life evolves. The question is was it designed to evolve.