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Message 52 of 103 (681451)
11-25-2012 5:49 PM

Reply to: Message 26 by Faith
11-25-2012 3:50 PM

Re: What is a creationist?

Faith writes:
Yes, there's the teaching in schools issue, but I had in mind just the level of animosity that gets generated in discussions about these things. Am I wrong about that?

If it were not for the attempts to force creationism into the schools, many of us would think of creationists as strange people with quaint ideas. And many of us would not be debating them.

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Message 55 of 103 (681458)
11-25-2012 6:03 PM

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11-25-2012 5:35 PM

Re: Just a little "fundamentalist" Anglophilia lamentation

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I suspect that HAD there been a substantial Christian spirit in their dealings with India, they would more clearly have benefited both themselves and the Indians and possibly India could have evolved into something similar to Canada or Australia in their relations with their conquerors. Possibly.

By "similar to Australia" perhaps you are thinking of the Tasmanian aboriginals, who were completely wiped out - one of the early recorded cases of genocide. Yes, I'm sure that was a great example of the workings of "a substantial Christian spirit."

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Message 79 of 103 (681515)
11-26-2012 9:06 AM

Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
11-26-2012 7:29 AM

Re: Class disctinctions, poverty, materialism, quality of life

Faith writes:
The difference I have in mind is that the British didn't move into India to settle as was the case in Canada and Australia.

Quite. They went there to pillage and loot, and the interests of the locals be damned.

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Message 84 of 103 (681563)
11-26-2012 12:30 PM

Reply to: Message 80 by Faith
11-26-2012 9:48 AM

Re: Class distinctions, poverty, materialism, quality of life

Faith writes:
Right, the British were exactly the same as, oh, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Hitler, and all the other conquerors of other peoples. Nothing but looting and pillaging, raping and murdering. Right.

and Stalin and Pol Pot and the Turks

That seems way over the top as a response.

Unlike the "comparisons" that you give, the "invasion" of India was a mercantile invasion, not a military invasion. Sure, the British government then sent troops to protect its citizens.

As for your reference to "the spirit of Christ", I guess that is what happened. The God of the religious right is the God of pillaging and looting. They demonstrate this with their support of the politics of greed.

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