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ringo
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Message 323 of 558 (680658)
11-20-2012 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 316 by ICANT
11-20-2012 11:33 AM


ICANT writes:
The universe exists, we exist in the universe, that is reality.
In non-existence there would be no universe or us, or anything, that is reality.
How can a lack of reality be reality?

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ringo
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Message 372 of 558 (681097)
11-22-2012 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 364 by ICANT
11-22-2012 12:11 AM


Re: beginnings
ICANT writes:
From Google:
eternal
Adjective:
1.Lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning.
Looks like eternal means without beginning or end.
Your chosen definition is ambiguous. Does it mean, "lacking both a beginning and an end," as you suggest, or does it mean, "lacking either a beginning or an end"? It does use the word "or", not "and".
A line can be infinite at only one end, you know. An infinite timeline could, mathematically at least, have a beginning but no end or an end but no beginning.

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Message 513 of 558 (682025)
11-29-2012 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 510 by ICANT
11-29-2012 2:30 PM


Re: Attempt number 123...
ICANT writes:
Is the atomic clock at Bolder Colorado set to operate at 9,192,631,770 oscillations per second?
You remind me of the schoolboy joke: Which is heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of gold? The knee-jerk answer is that they weigh the same but the trick is the fact that a pound of feathers has sixteen ounces while a pound of gold only has twelve.
So, is a pound of feathers heavier than a pound of gold?
Well, that depends on which is different, the ounce or the pound. Is a pound a pound and gold has bigger ounces? Or is an ounce an ounce and feathers have more of them? Or are both different?
My answer to your question would be that the number of oscillations is the same. It's the size of the seconds that differs.

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