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Author Topic:   Pat Robertson denies Young Earth Creationism
NoNukes
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Message 44 of 86 (681958)
11-28-2012 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by nwr
11-28-2012 10:55 AM


interesting?
I suppose the idea that Pat Robertson is not YEC is interesting. But Robertson is a blooming idiot. There must be dozens of ways to demonstrate his idiocy without being the least bit controversial.
So old Stopped Clock Pat is right about something? Okay, but he'll be onto something else in five seconds and he'll be way wrong about it.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 49 of 86 (682032)
11-29-2012 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by kofh2u
11-29-2012 12:43 PM


Re: interesting?
NoNukes writes:
There must be dozens of ways to demonstrate his idiocy without being the least bit controversial.
kofh2u writes:
example...?
Robertson was right about 911.
That is not the example I would have picked. But I do have to thank you for pointing out my error. When I claimed that there must be dozens of ways to demonstrate Pat's idiocy without raising a controversy, I was wrong. There are far fewer. Perhaps there are none. My error was underestimating the ability of human beings to believe the ridiculous and to generate a faux controversy. Thanks for providing your own personal example. I was moved enough to cheer your message.
My point was that given the audience here, Faith could have made a better choice of example. But now I'm not so sure. I would have used the following as an example of Pat's lunacy
quote:
Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.
Really? More terrible than the Inquisition, the Holocaust, and slavery? More terrible than anything the early Christians faced?
I might have mentioned his support of war criminal Charles Taylor.
Or Pat's ridiculous remarks about Haiti and Napolean which are not even close to being historically correct.
But some people do believe that crazy crap.
In any event, your point is well taken. Because there are people stupid enough to believe anything, everything is controversial.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 54 of 86 (682044)
11-29-2012 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by ICANT
11-29-2012 4:28 PM


Fast forward to the sixth day.
The sun and moon are already created by this point, Can't use those lengthy days now. I agree with you that this exercise is futile, but let's be fair about it.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 55 of 86 (682055)
11-29-2012 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Rahvin
11-29-2012 3:45 PM


Re: interesting?
They just feel like having their own bigotry exposed, or having their "rights" to force their beliefs onto those who do not share them removed, is somehow a form of bigotry.
Let's split the difference. Here is bigotry, Pat Robertson style...
"The store manager at Home Depot said Seasons Greetings to me at the store today. How Nazi! I'd rather be incarcerated with Korematsu and have all of my belongings confiscated than to endure that again. It was worse than a blanket laden with small pox.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 85 of 86 (682154)
11-30-2012 9:36 AM


Summation
I don't know if Pat got all of the details right, but he did indeed get the most important thing right. Teaching your kids crap is the best way to lose their attention. It's also a pretty good way to insure that they can never be involved in a whole bunch of scientific careers that they might otherwise find enjoyable and profitable.
And all for what? To embrace beliefs that have absolutely no bearing on your salvation or following Christ? Then where is the profit?
And Pat got the next most important part right as well. If you believe that God created the universe, then you must believe that the universe is a testimony to God. I just don't see how it could be otherwise.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

  
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