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But there is absolutely no way arund the fact that Genesis tels us that the 24 hour day wasn't available until God created the Solar Clock as Gen 1:14 tells us.Until God made the Sun and moon the time keepers of the Earth Time those first seven days could by any length even the duration of the six Geological Eras. 1. Formative/Cosmologic Era-Hadean Era/ = First Day2. Hadean Era-Archaean Era/ = Second Day3. Archaean Era-Proterozoic Era/ = Third Day4. Proterozoic Era-Paleozoic Era/ = Fourth Day5. Paleozoic Era-Mesozoic Era/ = Fifth Day6. Mesozoic Era-Cenozoic Era/ = Six Day7. Cenozoic Era-Common Era/ = Seventh Day

By which you mean the science supported emergence of truth as far as is humanly possible to determine at this time?Yes, I agree with the one stipulation that we stay open to changes if science retracts or edits the truth in the future.But when I see that Genesis is thoroughly supported by sciwnce riht noq, I emphasize that the atheitist and bible bashed has no case against the bible since both knoqwledge and the faith in scripture cn be complementary.As far as evolution is concerned, the bible agrees that the Plant Kingdom appeared before the aAmal Kingdom, using only the Two Kingdom System since only plants and animals are mentioned.We also read the amazing claim in Gen 1:9 that a Pangea-like event occurred during the third "day" which would be geologically analogous to the evening of the Archean and the early morning of the Proterozoic Era.I can not understand why the church people do not accept this Theistic Evolution teaching which has bbeen on the internet for a dozen years now.Maybe Pat Robertson has been reading some of those Forums and sees that this interpretation is the next ecumenicalistic teaching of the moment????

What about the one mutation which was an Act-of-God that fused together two of the 24 Ape chromosomes, back 7 million years ago, and created the first "human-oid" with only 23 chromosome pairs????? Chimpanzees and Humans have extremely similar DNA to humans.
But Chimpanzees have one more chromosome than Humans do, (24 pairs), and if Humans and Chimpanzees are genetically related (sharing a common ancestor), this extra chromosome had to go somewhere.
Evolutionary Biologists might predict that two chromosomes fused into one.
But they would need hard evidence to use that hypothesis as more argument for evolution in general, and for a good enough reason to make such a claim.
As it turns out Chromosome number 2 in Humans was once two different chromosomes that were fused together.
Additionally, the evidence is that an extra large Telomere appears in the middle of the #2 chromosome, as well as an extra Centromere, as depicted in the illustration above.

By death, Genesis means the second death of the speies, an extinction.Adam was a species which went extinctGen 5:2 says god called them, the man and his wife, the "Adamites,"... i.e.; a species:Gen 5:2 Male and female created he THEM; and blessed THEM, and called THEIR name Adam, (a species), in the day when THEY were created.The text of Genesis 5 compared to the present paleonotology.

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Robertson apparently has been reading the concepts of Theistic Evolution interpretations of Genesis which demonstrate that the Bible is actually saying what science now tells us about the creation.For instance, the Big Bang marked the moment of "In the beginning."
Previous to 1940, scientists argued that the Universe had always existed.Robertson was right about 911, when he said that God was warning America thatthe neighboring patriarchs of Islam would crush the gentile sexually promiscuous behaviors that have over taken the USA since the feminist Sexual Revolution of 1960.He was referring to the example of the Hebrew Patriarchs who god made so as to act just like those muslims and their Law, the Sharia of today.But his anti-evolutionism is softening as he re-rreads genesis and hears the Theistic Ev interpretations.

That's true.I have told those same people that they have very poor reading comprehension which they then apply to telling others what genesis says.
And they are not open to discussion about the things they claim that the Bible says.But I believe that after 10 years on the internet, some of them, like Pat R , realize they must agree with Theistic Evolution interpretation.They will insist that the six "days" were 24 hour durations when the book clearly says the 24 hour solar day was in existence until the 3rd era of the creative process as described in Genesis itself.

I don't defend his subjective and personal opinions about politics.But there is a War going on between the sexually prudent Christian ncommunity and the advocates for sexual promiscuity who want to condon premarital sex as a rite of passage for teens who do not marry now until age 26.Those 14 years of wide open unsupervised or regulated sexual promiscuity end with every sort of social problem imaginable, and a tax bite in Welfare that now costs as much as the Military budget every year.The public has not been told by either Republicans or Democrats that 70% of all violent crime is caused by kids raised by Single Mothers.
That is very expensive too.This seems to leave this issue in the Cultural Institution with no criticism unkless the Institution of Religion sets in and re-establishes the Marital Institution as the proper place for sexual activity.My complain is that the church is on the defense because they oppose science nin regard to the totally irrelevent interpretation of Genesis.Now, I have been told that these kinds of statements can get me suspend forever because the moderators here complain, but these are all statistics coming out of the Social Sciences.If the mods say I can't support christian prudence here, and the demo and repubs won't touch Welfare/Aborion/free concoms/open Gay promiscuity, premaritalk sex, etc who will?

I'm referring to Gen 1:14:The Sun and the Moon and all the Stars were "MADE the authority over the circadian Earth Time as soon as had life appeared in the late Archean or 3rd duration of the geological rock formation:14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15-16, ... Biological time-keeping is assigned to the Solar System:

These are the figures to which I refer: (Please be objective about generalizations claiming I am wrong in your opinion so I can respond to the contrary.)The google below does correct my statement in regard to wlfare equivalency with the military budget, in that the 2013 Budget for Welfare = 2/3rds of the cost for the Military.
HOWEVER, the figures ignore the fact that Welfare Families are completely covered for Medical and Health Services, plus Drug costs.This figure is part of the Medicare Budget. Consider that Health Insurance for a family of four cost approximately $1000/month and we can see the real costs of Welfare approaching the Cost of Defense if not exceeding it. Welfare = 2/3 Defense Spending PLUS FREE MEDICAREGovernment Spending: the Big PictureThe four big programs each cost about one trillion dollars a year.
Table 2.02: Total Spending Breakdown FY 2013Where does all the money go? It is really quite simple.Governments at all levels, federal, state, and local, spend about $1.1 trillion a year on pensions, including Social Security and government employee pensions.Governments spend about $1.1 trillion a year on health care, principally Medicare and Medicaid.Governments spend about $0.9 trillion a year on education at all levels, principally at the local government level. The federal government spends about $0.9 trillion a year on defense, including the Departments of Defense, State, and Veterans Affairs.

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Governments spend $0.6 trillion on welfare programs. All other spending amounts to $1.6 trillion, including interest on the national debt. It all adds up to $6.4 trillion.
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He googles immediately to find something that can be used to doubt and criticize the factual basis for what he does not want to accept.
which Welfare families recieve Clare Blanche
But google can only supply the facts.
People like him never tstop and think, nor do they look for more information that supports the other point of view.Here, he ignores the tremendous cost of Medicare and Medicaid plus Free Drug Programs and Free Food distributed by the Agricultural Departments.
The Department of Education also spends money to give Welfare mothers @ $400 month if their child is in Special Education, which most all are, especially with such an incntive to plead stupidity as $400/mo.

You restate his unfounded accusation.
Start a thread for one of those things you refer to,...But for this thread, certainly you two are in the majority of being wrong about Welfare Costs, though the issue is really about the cost of violent crime, too.The FACT above is in the form of a Graphic representation that shows Single Mother Families and Crime Rates.
But the abuses against the children from this Welfare Program far exceeds even the crippling Tax burden and Criminal Justuce System costs:It’s a Fact
Here’s why:63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
(Source: Center for Disease Control).80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prisonChildren from fatherless homes are*:Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*: 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
24.3 times more likely to run away
15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
10.8 times more likely to commit rape
6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutionsDaughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

It was all in defense of Pat against unfounded comments which claimed Robertson was never right about anything.The whole line of debate has been to substantiate that Robertson is now getting on board with science.But Pat has been right about God punishing the sexually promiscuous America with all these social problems and even 911, when the muslim patriarchs predictably attacked our Gentile society as patriarchs werw created by God to so do.The defense against what I say here deverted this to requiring that I establish that fact that America DOES have a scocial and financial problem.

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How is "in the beginning God created the heavens including the Earth" any different than what scientists basically say?It is clear that the Universe DID have a beginning, 13.9 billion years ago. Gen. 1:1 In the beginning, (the Formative/Cosmology Era), God, (the Uncaused First Cause, or the Dark Energy which pre-existed the material Universe, perhaps), created... (all that which has followed the Big Bang from the singularity of Planck Time which consisted ofSeven Stages:
1) The Inflation Era
2) The Quark Era
3) Hadron Era
4) Lepton Era
5) Nucleosynthesis Era
6) Opaque Era
7) Matter Era,...
in an enormous Einsteinian energy transformation, E = mC^2),...
... the (matter composing the) heaven (beyond the Solar System) and the (accretion disk which congealed into the planet) earth.(Gen 1:1)
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