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I don't defend his subjective and personal opinions about politics.But there is a War going on between the sexually prudent Christian ncommunity and the advocates for sexual promiscuity who want to condon premarital sex as a rite of passage for teens who do not marry now until age 26.Those 14 years of wide open unsupervised or regulated sexual promiscuity end with every sort of social problem imaginable, and a tax bite in Welfare that now costs as much as the Military budget every year.The public has not been told by either Republicans or Democrats that 70% of all violent crime is caused by kids raised by Single Mothers.
That is very expensive too.This seems to leave this issue in the Cultural Institution with no criticism unkless the Institution of Religion sets in and re-establishes the Marital Institution as the proper place for sexual activity.My complain is that the church is on the defense because they oppose science nin regard to the totally irrelevent interpretation of Genesis.Now, I have been told that these kinds of statements can get me suspend forever because the moderators here complain, but these are all statistics coming out of the Social Sciences.If the mods say I can't support christian prudence here, and the demo and repubs won't touch Welfare/Aborion/free concoms/open Gay promiscuity, premaritalk sex, etc who will?

Click here"Welfare" = 12% of the US Federal budget.Defense is 25%.I think you're more than a little off.And, you know...most everything else you say on this board is also wrong. Really, all of it; I don;t think I've ever seen you make a factually accurate statement, even once.

Hi Rahvin,Where did you get your numbers from?I find this analysis of 2011 welfare costs.

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Total federal and state "welfare" spending topped $1 trillion last year, marking a nearly 30 percent increase since the start of the Obama administration -- according to a new congressional report which documented spending across more than 80 benefit programs for low-income families.

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Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, released the figures Thursday, compiled based on a committee analysis and a new Congressional Research Service study. The stats show that the combination of federal and state "welfare" spending is more than the country spends on Medicare, Social Security or non-war defense.

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Click hereJust about everywhere I looked the Federal governments part was over 700 billion dollars with the states putting up the rest of 300+ billion.God Bless,

That's what you get for using something like Fox as a source. LOLIf you look here you will see that the Federal Welfare budget is less than half the "White" defense budget.

I found the Senate committee's web site report on their "study"--it looked pretty much like the Fox News report. Imagine that.Their report was based on figures supplied by the Congressional Research Service and "committee analysis"... Ah, yes, "committee analysis"...This is the same CRS that reported the conclusion that top tax rates have no negative impact on economic growth, a report the GOP swept under the rug a few days before the election.Sessions claims 80-odd "welfare" programs: What are they? Where is the link to the CRS report itself? Why do the numbers reported by Sessions and Fox News address only the years 2008 forward? Why address only means-tested programs--are funds lavished on the rich more virtuous?Gosh, do you think they have an agenda, ICANT? Didn't you ask yourself these questions when you read the report?The Fox News piece is full of truthiness and newsiness and infotainment, but offers not a single reference that can be verified by an independent-minded reader. And even they felt compelled to put quotation marks around "welfare".I can't blame you for not understanding physics, but you should know political malarkey when you see it. Shame on you.Edited by Omnivorous, : Sorry, jar, I misclicked

I'm referring to Gen 1:14:The Sun and the Moon and all the Stars were "MADE the authority over the circadian Earth Time as soon as had life appeared in the late Archean or 3rd duration of the geological rock formation:14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15-16, ... Biological time-keeping is assigned to the Solar System:

These are the figures to which I refer: (Please be objective about generalizations claiming I am wrong in your opinion so I can respond to the contrary.)The google below does correct my statement in regard to wlfare equivalency with the military budget, in that the 2013 Budget for Welfare = 2/3rds of the cost for the Military.
HOWEVER, the figures ignore the fact that Welfare Families are completely covered for Medical and Health Services, plus Drug costs.This figure is part of the Medicare Budget. Consider that Health Insurance for a family of four cost approximately $1000/month and we can see the real costs of Welfare approaching the Cost of Defense if not exceeding it. Welfare = 2/3 Defense Spending PLUS FREE MEDICAREGovernment Spending: the Big PictureThe four big programs each cost about one trillion dollars a year.
Table 2.02: Total Spending Breakdown FY 2013Where does all the money go? It is really quite simple.Governments at all levels, federal, state, and local, spend about $1.1 trillion a year on pensions, including Social Security and government employee pensions.Governments spend about $1.1 trillion a year on health care, principally Medicare and Medicaid.Governments spend about $0.9 trillion a year on education at all levels, principally at the local government level. The federal government spends about $0.9 trillion a year on defense, including the Departments of Defense, State, and Veterans Affairs.

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Governments spend $0.6 trillion on welfare programs. All other spending amounts to $1.6 trillion, including interest on the national debt. It all adds up to $6.4 trillion.
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And what the Hell does it have to do with "Pat Robertson denies Young Earth Creationism" in the first place? LOL

Everything is connected. They're all mad as hatters.Really, really old hatters.

No, Rahvin is correct.It isn't a generalization. Every post you have made has turned out to be undeniably wrong and every claim you have made has had no factual support.I think you just make it up as you go along.

He googles immediately to find something that can be used to doubt and criticize the factual basis for what he does not want to accept.
which Welfare families recieve Clare Blanche
But google can only supply the facts.
People like him never tstop and think, nor do they look for more information that supports the other point of view.Here, he ignores the tremendous cost of Medicare and Medicaid plus Free Drug Programs and Free Food distributed by the Agricultural Departments.
The Department of Education also spends money to give Welfare mothers @ $400 month if their child is in Special Education, which most all are, especially with such an incntive to plead stupidity as $400/mo.

You restate his unfounded accusation.
Start a thread for one of those things you refer to,...But for this thread, certainly you two are in the majority of being wrong about Welfare Costs, though the issue is really about the cost of violent crime, too.The FACT above is in the form of a Graphic representation that shows Single Mother Families and Crime Rates.
But the abuses against the children from this Welfare Program far exceeds even the crippling Tax burden and Criminal Justuce System costs:It’s a Fact
Here’s why:63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
(Source: Center for Disease Control).80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prisonChildren from fatherless homes are*:Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*: 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
24.3 times more likely to run away
15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
10.8 times more likely to commit rape
6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutionsDaughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

It was all in defense of Pat against unfounded comments which claimed Robertson was never right about anything.The whole line of debate has been to substantiate that Robertson is now getting on board with science.But Pat has been right about God punishing the sexually promiscuous America with all these social problems and even 911, when the muslim patriarchs predictably attacked our Gentile society as patriarchs werw created by God to so do.The defense against what I say here deverted this to requiring that I establish that fact that America DOES have a scocial and financial problem.

The problem, cthulhu, is that you are mad for correlations that don't demonstrate causal connections--and what do your pseudo-statistical obsessions have to do with Pat Robertson or the age of the earth?

Hi jar, Yea, I should not trust them they might be biased and have an agenda.They did get their information from Rep. Jeff Sessions, which you would probably say is a bad source.Lets look at your source.Click on 2011 and get information for a full year which Fox was using.

TOTAL
Welfare                                               799.7 billion
Now click the + sign on Health care

Vendor payments welfare                                 348  billion

TOTAL  Welfare costs                                  1.1477 trillion

There could probably be other amounts found if I wanted to spend the time looking for it.Be careful of your sources.God Bless,

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Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, released the figures Thursday, compiled based on a committee analysis and a new Congressional Research Service study.

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Read more: 'Welfare' spending topped $1 trillion in 2011, study shows | Fox News

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