Is God good?

But what you think does not matter.You are not the arbiter of who or what is a Christian. You are a walking fallacy.

You all keep claiming I'm only representing me, but I'm not, really and truly I believe myself to be representing the majority Protestant belief, and I've taken pains to show that. I've spent most of my Christian life STUDYING all this, accumulating a large library of PROTESTANT thinking. I've posted the names of some of the best and greatest of the tradition at various places. I am certainly not representing a minority opinion here, let alone something I conjured up myself.You can read Luther or Calvin or any of the Reformers, or any of the names I've listed elsewhere mostly representing the great Christian teachers of Britain, and find the same doctrines I'm arguing for, which, again, come down to the BASIC GOSPEL: Salvation by faith alone in Christ alone through God's grace alone.That includes the doctrine of the TRINITY, which is rejected by Unitarian universalism, and excludes all those religions that deny that Christ is God who came to die for us. THIS IS STANDARD PROTESTANT BIBLICAL TEACHING.You guys must all have been living under a rock.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

As a Protestant Christian though I need to point out that that belief simply cheapens Jesus Christ and Christianity and turns it into a really selfish "What's in it for me" con job.It also makes God look like a fool and Jesus as little more than a burnt offering.

Libraries of protestant thinking or not, salvation by faith alone was not part of Jesus' ministry. Neither was a doctrine of grace.Those are afterthoughts that are in contrast to the life Jesus espoused and thought.Most of his parables are in regard to those who fail to do good work. As well, his own narrative is a testimony to works.It would be quite ironic for Jesus to go through the ongoing works he had to accomplish in order for salvation to be available, only for faith to be the only redeeming factor.If faith alone made the difference, Jesus would not have had to put on flesh and overcome death. He would have only had to have faith in the goodness of man.If you believe in a literal, physical Christ whose own works were necessary in order for redemption to be possible, then a belief that "faith alone" represents what he meant and did is quite a contradiction.And I must agree that, whether your single opinion or shared by a majority of Protestants, you don't get to decide who is and is not a Christian.Edited by Eli, : No reason given.

It is not relevant what your opinion of Protestant belief is in this context, the point is only that it IS mainstream Protestant belief held by ALL who hold to Biblical Protestantism. It's THE gospel of salvation that all "evangelicals" and other Protestants preach.

But that is only some Protestants and it still makes God look like a fool, Jesus worth little more than a burnt offering and diminishes all of what Jesus' life was worth.

As I just said to jar, your opinion of Protestant belief is not relevant in this context. Again, I'm representing what traditional historical Protestants teach and still teach. It is not a minority view and it is not something I made up myself.It is very confusing for people who reject the basics of historic Protestantism to call themselves Christians, but that is what you are advocating. What is going to happen is that your broad definition of Christianity is going to feed right into the Antichrist's agenda. You'll all wecome him as the true Christ most likely. Well, that would fulfill Bible prophecy at least.
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What's the word "now" doing in there? So far as I know, Christianity has always been a minority belief.

How can you be sure that the Protestant version isn't feeding into any antichrist agenda?I haven't seen any argument that suggests that Protestants have the cutting edge on other Christians in not feeding an antichrist agenda.

Again, jar, the very term "Protestant" refers to the doctrines of the Reformers who split from Catholicism and rejected its teachings. That means SALVATION IS BY FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE THROUGH GRACE ALONE. That IS the Biblical gospel. You are of course free to ignore it or hate it or blaspheme it but I'd really like to keep it clear what the gospel is because it's a matter of eternal life or death.

My apologies, but that was never a teaching during Jesus' ministry.

What denomination of the Protestant version of Christianity are you?

You don't seem to be aware that you are giving your OWN interpretation of this, which sounds like most heresies, as if it trumps the interpretation of the Protestant Reformers who had just about all been Catholic priests, who read Latin and in some cases Greek and had read all the Church Fathers and certainly understood the true gospel, which they came to independently of each other, and which also accords with the Bible believers down the centuries who had escaped from Rome (only to be murdered en masse from time to time but they WERE outside that institution which they recognized to be antichrist in its essence).Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You are free to make any claim that you want but that has nothing to do with what I posted.That is only some Protestants and it still makes God look like a fool, Jesus worth little more than a burnt offering and diminishes all of what Jesus' life was worth.

I've been part of at least three different denominations. I think of myself as mostly Reformed or Calvinist Baptist (which was the denomination of Spurgeon, probably the most famous preacher Britain ever had).