Off Topic Posts aka Rabbit Trail Thread - Mostly YEC Geology

If the Biblical Flood happened as told in the Bible myths then God is only a jokester, a prankster like Coyote, nothing more than a demented conman.All of the evidence shows an old earth and that none of the Biblical Flood myths actually happened and so if they really did happen then God planted false evidence just to fool people.

Say what? Please name one thing your religion contributed to a First World quality of life?

HUH?Capitalism is the result of your religion?Work ethic?Individual liberties?Science?Come on now Faith, even you must see that is simply a bare assertion.Have you not heard of Euclid, Aristotle, Abū ʿAbdallāh Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī, Georges Lematre, Hans Bethe?

Yet the very term and description was first used by Karl Marx and so far you have never shown there is some Protestant ethic.

Noah's world was the whole world. Even a thousands of years before Adam humans knew that the world was far larger than just the area they called home. There was trade for food stuffs and trinkets, precious objects and ideas. The folk living along the coast of the Black Sea or in the flat lands of Mesopotamia were not ignorant of travelers, trade goods, stories, gods ...And yes, if you read Genesis 1 which was written long, long after Genesis 2, it does show that the meaning was to define days as a cycle of night and day and the sacred week as six working days and one non-working day.The whole point of Genesis 1 is days and weeks. Edited by jar, : had a paren in there for some reason

No, I'm say that God did not write the Bible and that Moses even if Moshe existed, had nothing to do with Genesis 1.The purpose of Genesis 1 has absolutely nothing to do with explaining creation of anything other than the sacred week and the sabbath.

There is no such thing as "Creationist SCIENCE" can never be such a thing as "Creationist SCIENCE" and claiming something is "Creationist SCIENCE" is at best an oxymoron but in most cases simply a lie.Edited by jar, : fix quote box

Bullshit.The Biblical Flood has been totally refuted and anyone claiming the Biblical Flood happened, any of the mutually exclusive Biblical Flood accounts, is simply wrong.

How did it do that?

One of my brothers used to use his tongue to eat the cheese out of a grilled cheese sandwich without eating the bread or taking the sandwich apart.How did the flood do that erosion?

No, it is the fault of folk like you that they lose their faith. You give them no choice and in fact educate them in a manner that MUST drive them to atheism.There are no "supposed scientific facts".

One "fact" that would turn someone against both the Bible and Christianity is your insistence that the Bible must be literally true.

The classic avoidance tactic of the CCoI. When it is impossible to defend one's position simply avoid the truth.

First let me comment on the Global Warming issue. The issue of whether it is man caused or natural is really nothing but an attempt to keep from having to address the issue. It just plain doesn't matter if it is man caused and the BEST possible scenario is if it is man caused. Regardless of who or what caused it, we will still need to address the effects and the easiest things we can do is to address those things man does contribute. Addressing non-man made contributions will be far harder and far more expensive.At the same time, we need to be discussing how we plan to deal with the effects of Global warming. In the US how do we relocate several million people, add additional water management facilities and build the needed infrastructure, assure adequate water supplies for agriculture and modify what is being grown to match changes in climate?Next, on Genesis 1. Go back and reread it but from yet another perspective. See the creation story under a new point of view, one where the creation story is simply a plot device to support the Hebrew week and Sabbath. Genesis 1 is a much younger story than Genesis 2&3 and is most likely a product of the period when the greatest threat was being assimilated into the Persian culture; it is a product meant to help establish and reinforce a particular characteristic of "Jewishness", the six day week followed by the Sabbath. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.

Do more research.But you don't have to lower the standard of living for those who can least afford it. You simply lower the high end far more.Yes, we need to totally rebuild the US. But at best it will take a half century. The one FACT is that the bill will get paid. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.