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NoNukes Inactive Member |
herefore the claim that flood geology is a farce at least has no reason. If you mean "no reason" yet established in this thread, then you are right. Dr. Adequate has not yet provided his argument that flood geology is a farce. But it will be quite easy to demonstrate the farce when all of the things that the flood is purported to have produced are considered. So far, the only thing you have argued is that a sedimentary layer can be formed by a flood. There is far more to explain. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw
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Meanwhile, they're barely tackling the hard stuff. I believe you've given a peep of your hole card. I was kinda hoping the rough stuff wouldn't start until after Portillio posted. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I have tried to show you evidence for dinosaurs being concurrent with human civilizations and I am prepared to answer any further discrepancies you may pick up. Where did you do this? I've reviewed your responses in this thread and I see a lot of questions that cannot be answered by compressing all of human history into only 5000 years. But I don't see much of an attempt to provide evidence for anything. Just a bunch of "I believes". Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Four links that show archaeological evidence in early civilizations for their knowledge of dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were depicted in pottery and architecture in the same manner as other animals, as if their presence was just as common at that time. (Post 110) Pictures of dinosaurs? That's your evidence? Dinosaurs also show up in the Flintstones and I used to play with plastic models of dinosaurs. And yet nobody I know has ever seen a Pterodactyl or a Brachiosaurus. I'm sorry for dragging the discussion any further off topic. I see that this thread is supposed to be about geography. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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guess that's possible that those primitive people could recreate an accurate statue from some bones. Define "accurate". Name the dinosaur can you recognize from a statue, and give me a way to confirm that the dinosaur is an accurate recreation of a formerly living creature. For example, I would need considerable convincing before I would consider a T-Rex looking dinosaur with stegosaurus plates on her back to be an accurate rendition of anything. Godzilla isn't real.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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According to the bible lifespans were huge back then, Noah being the oldest person on earth only died 600 years after the flood. This is close to the time I regard the dinosaurs as mainly dying out. Thus there would only ever be a few humans dying concurrent with dinosaurs, but to find them together virtually impossible due to variation in habitat and human burial habits. What about all those humans that lived well before the flood? Weren't they living concurrently with dinosaurs according to you? You seem to be suggesting here that fossils only come from dinosaurs that died during an extension event. But what about fossils below the P-T boundary? Below the K-T boundary?
You see, if they weren't exposed to that fast mineralisation process very quickly, they would hardly ever survive. So these fossils very existence is proof that bones can become rock quickly, if they didnt they wouldnt exist. Or, the mineralization process is actually very slow and fossils are quite rare. That seems to match what we actually see.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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let's just say I am not claiming a human bottleneck at the flood, only a bottleneck of other large terrestrial animals. But you need to claim a bottleneck in humans, and ALL large land animals. The bottleneck would have to appear in essentially all alleles. While there is some flexibility among some of he animals, we know exactly how many humans are alleged to have been on the ark, and for three of the eight, we know their parentage. There should be a bottle neck in the human genome.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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He thinks that the "sons of gods" which may have mated with humans pre-fludde magically added thousands of alleles to each human, which allowed Noye et. al. to carry them all, and then they disappeared after the fludde to be replaced by the usual one or two alleles. Well once magic is invoked, there is no point in asking for evidence. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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What kind of birds are these that hate wetlands and only dwell in areas that refuse to leave fossils? Lol. Wouldn't some of those birds have to have been ducks and other waterfowl? Hilarious.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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For what reason? Do you think their classification could have been affected by currently accepted thinking that there were no dolphins in the early Triassic? What is the essential characteristic of mammals? Do ichthyosaurs have that characterisitic? Is that lack influenced by currently accepted thinking, or is it real?Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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mindspawn writes: He may have been instructed to get diverse types, that would make sense for species survival. How did he manage to do that, you suppose? I would suggest that once magic gets invoked, that the discussion has reached a dead end. But there is simply no way that selectiong only a couple of pigs would allow for much diversity. The pigs would have to have super genomes, or magical ones. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Does the redating described in the article invalidate any dates found through index fossils, radioactive decay dating, or other age data? Not as far as I can see. Instead the article seems to describe discovering that the complex is really part of the Appalachians.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
They seem to have found new fossils that validate the later dates. The new fossils, and the new origins (Appalachian origins) invalidates the earlier dates for those mountains. You are avoiding the question. Where those 'invalidated dates' based on radiometry, previously found fossils, or other dating technique which is now shown to have been invalid? Apparently not.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Which do you think more likely: Radiometric dating can be off by over a hundred million years, a fact that would shake to their respective cores both paleontology and physics, but no one has noticed or cares. You're misinterpreting the article. Uh, "shaken to their respective cores"??? Isn't that after all what he is trying to suggest?Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
And I'm pointing out that this would shake paleontology and physics to their respective cores And I'm suggesting that exactly such a shaking is required if the universe is to be only 6000 years old with a global flood about 4500 years ago.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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