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Faith 
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Message 736 of 955 (688046)
01-18-2013 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 728 by AZPaul3
01-18-2013 5:14 PM


You need to bold the message in the frame, AZ Paul. The frame overwhelms it. Just an aesthetic consideration.

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Message 737 of 955 (688047)
01-18-2013 5:49 PM


Now, what's your reason for not producing evidence for your assertions?
Moron.
Faith, are sure you want to give this as your reason?

  
Dr Adequate
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Message 738 of 955 (688048)
01-18-2013 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 735 by Faith
01-18-2013 5:46 PM


Re: How gun laws tyrannize people
Dr A writes:
Now, what's your reason for not producing evidence for your assertions?
Faith writes:
Moron.
Well, I wasn't going to be the first to suggest it.

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AZPaul3
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Message 739 of 955 (688049)
01-18-2013 5:51 PM
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01-18-2013 5:48 PM


You need to bold the message in the frame, AZ Paul. The frame overwhelms it. Just an aesthetic consideration.
As requested.
Thank you M'lady.

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Faith 
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Message 740 of 955 (688050)
01-18-2013 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 738 by Dr Adequate
01-18-2013 5:50 PM


Re: How gun laws tyrannize people
You moron.

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Faith 
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Message 741 of 955 (688054)
01-18-2013 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 729 by Tangle
01-18-2013 5:14 PM


The simple point - as put by the NRA - is that the President of the USA has personal security guards and so does his children. They go on to say that everyone's children therefore deserve the same protection.
Now I'm a little confused about what you call the 'simple point' being made here. You see I think that the President and his children have a very real need for special protection and I think that need is very obvious.
I see. Everybody here is screaming that we need to take guns away from the millions of good people in this country because a few crazy people murder children, because you want to protect those children from the crazy people by taking the guns away from the non-crazy people, leaving the crazy people to find ways to get them anyway while the non-crazy people are now subject to any kind of criminal assault and even government oppression and even murder by that same government that you all agree needs to be protected by guns against us, while the children in the schools are still unprotected from homicidal maniacs, and you scream and yell against any suggestion that armed citizens or armed guards might help protect those children better than taking guns away from the good guys who WERE promised the right to keep guns for self defense but you've already destroyed the first amendment anyway so why not the second as well, while you see the need to protect the government against us that the amendment was supposed to protect us against.
Sorry I can't follow you lunatics. You make no sense.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 742 of 955 (688055)
01-18-2013 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 741 by Faith
01-18-2013 6:09 PM


Take your meds. You can't even keep straight what YOU are trying to say, let alone what anyone else is trying to say. I've seen some decent responses to your comments on Germany, etc, and was hoping you would have a decent response. But you don't. You just yell that you do, and then call people names. Are you in fourth grade?

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Theodoric
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Message 743 of 955 (688058)
01-18-2013 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 719 by Faith
01-18-2013 4:46 PM


Re: How gun laws tyrannize people
I didn't quote it so you're lying to make an issue of it in relation to anything I said.
Never said you did. So I am not lying am I. But as you are prone to believing just about anything that supports your views, I just wanted to warn you about this before you embarrassed yourself and used it.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 744 of 955 (688059)
01-18-2013 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 721 by Faith
01-18-2013 4:49 PM


Re: How gun laws tyrannize people
Try trusting people who did the research to make a video and write some books on the subject you nasty lousy evil people who refuse to accept decent information but keep demanding the impossible.
They did no research. Do you know how I know they did not do any research. Because their claims are not true. They do not give any original sources. This information is all propaganda.
You expect me to believe stuff these guys are putting out independent, reviewed and sourced information.
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
Considering how you feel about non-christians I am surprised you would use a Jewish group to support your viewpoint. But they're still going to hell aren't they.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Tangle
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Message 745 of 955 (688061)
01-18-2013 6:49 PM


It seems that Faith was armed with a fully automatic jeer weapon and a backpack full of ammo.
Before she was taken down by an undercover moderator with a carry licence and a disable button, some of her jeers unfortunately hit innocence participants in other forums.
Our thoughts are now with their families and we can only hope that the much demanded legislation that will keep jeer weapons out of the hands of the mentally unstable will now be enacted.
We await the NJA's response with no small amount of intellectual amusement.
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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AZPaul3
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Message 746 of 955 (688076)
01-18-2013 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 745 by Tangle
01-18-2013 6:49 PM


Before she was taken down by an undercover moderator with a carry licence and a disable button, some of her jeers unfortunately hit innocence participants in other forums.
I tried to administer first aid to the afflicted in the immediate vicinity but there was so much carnage I could not make it to the other areas. And ... OK ... I spent too much time having fun with my warning sign. Forgive me my weakness.
I think the solution to these issues is obvious. We need armed Mods dedicated full time to each thread in the forum.
Where's a Moose when you need one?
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 747 of 955 (688078)
01-18-2013 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 740 by Faith
01-18-2013 5:51 PM


Re: How gun laws tyrannize people
You moron.
The cogency of your argument is matched only by the elegance of your literary style.

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foreveryoung
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Message 748 of 955 (688080)
01-18-2013 11:08 PM
Reply to: Message 731 by Tempe 12ft Chicken
01-18-2013 5:22 PM


Re: How gun laws tyrannize people
Well, that was unnecessary. Maybe I forgot to mention (but I swear I did) that the Gun Law if 1938 repealed the previous laws that were put in place by the Weimar Republic. Hitler could no longer utilize those laws. The only individuals guns were confiscated from were the Jewish people. You posted one video that I could actually check and links to books I have no intention of purchasing simply to verify your statements. I definitely did not slander you and I apologize if it came out that way. However, as far as the evidence I have seen, you seem to be wrong. When only one group is shouting something with no agreement from anywhere I become skeptical of the claim and will only trust evidence. I trusted the statements in my evidence more than yours. No offense intended.
Still I ask, where were those Non-Jewish Germans with guns when they saw their friends and neighbors taken away? Group think can be an extremely dangerous tool, especially when used how the Nazis used it.
Group think is exactly what is going on here in america with a tremendous percentage of the population who are led around like sheep by the likes of Candy Crowley, Anderson Cooper, Piers Morgan, Wolf Blitzer, David Gregory, Rachel Maddow.
Where were the Non-Jewish Germans with guns? Nowhere to be found. Why? They didn't give a rat's ass. Actually they did but not in the way you would expect. They bought into hitlers lies about the jews and were in full support of their extermination. It seems people were led around by the nose like sheep back then too.
The only individuals guns were confiscated from were the Jewish people.
This wasn't done by law was it? It was done by a tyrant. Executive orders anyone?
The key point is that GUNS WERE CONSFISCATED. It matters not whether it was by law or decree, the result was the same. Could the jews have prevented their extermination without their guns being confiscated? Probably not, since they were a minority and the rest of the country despised them.
It would not have gone done without much notice like it did in reality. The shootout that would have occurred when the military and the SS came to root the jews out of their homes, would have been noticed by everyone, and perhaps, the world would have known more clearly that there , indeed, was a genocide in progress.

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Theodoric
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Message 749 of 955 (688081)
01-18-2013 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 748 by foreveryoung
01-18-2013 11:08 PM


Re: How gun laws tyrannize people
This wasn't done by law was it?
Uh, yes it was.
Executive orders anyone?
Which of the recent Executive Orders are tyrannical?
The shootout that would have occurred when the military and the SS came to root the jews out of their homes, would have been noticed by everyone, and perhaps, the world would have known more clearly that there , indeed, was a genocide in progress.
You really should learn facts before you spout off. Ever hear of the Warsaw Ghetto? The armed Jews didn't do much except die. The world leaders knew about the genocide. It just wasn't "expedient" to deal with it.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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foreveryoung
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Message 750 of 955 (688082)
01-18-2013 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 749 by Theodoric
01-18-2013 11:20 PM


Re: How gun laws tyrannize people
Uh, yes it was.
Guns were confiscated from the jews according to a law passed by the german parliament?
Which of the recent Executive Orders are tyrannical?
Which of your shoes are colored purple?
You really should learn facts before you spout off. Ever hear of the Warsaw Ghetto? The armed Jews didn't do much except die. The world leaders knew about the genocide. It just wasn't "expedient" to deal with it.
You should really learn facts about the movie "white men can't jump". Ever hear of Wesley Snipes? The world's men know about steroids. It just wasn't expedient to cut kill chicken by ringing their necks.
I bet you have no idea what point I am making do you?

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