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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
Was that this outlook.com that Microsoft is promoting the s*** out of to take all the email business away from Google? If so, then your mother-in-law's experience shows us exactly what to expect if we switch.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2578 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
While these various email accounts appear to be free, the owners are most probably building profiles of each person and selling them to marketing firms, even if they promise not to be doing that.
And soon the U.S. government will also have unfettered permission to examine these emails.... - xongsmith, 5.7d
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
dwise1 writes: Was that this outlook.com that Microsoft is promoting the s*** out of to take all the email business away from Google? If so, then your mother-in-law's experience shows us exactly what to expect if we switch. I doubt it. That's pretty new. But I wouldn't expect that to be any better, really. Oh, wait... maybe it is? There is a plan to transfer all Hotmail accounts over to the new outlook.com stuff eventually. Not sure when that's being implented (or if it's already been done). So... yeah, I have nothing to say.I wasted all your times! Your time is mine now!
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4032 Joined: Member Rating: 9.2 |
And soon the U.S. government will also have unfettered permission to examine these emails.... They already do. It's a major issue with cloud storage of any type, including email - currently no warrant is required to access information stored by a third party. They need a warrant to look at your computer, but they don't need a warrant to look at a third-party email or storage server that houses your data.The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it. - Francis Bacon "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus "...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." - Barash, David 1995.
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Jon Inactive Member |
I couldn't identify in Theodoric's account the specific ignorance about computers on his m-i-l's part to which you refer. You are absolutely right. It was stated nowhere; I assumed it based on the following comment:
quote: I see now that the statement could be interpreted in other ways; so I may have made a faulty assumption. In either case, the mother-in-law is clearly in the wrong expecting the giver of free things to continue giving free things. As they say, don't feed the bears. And don't take candy from strangers. Jon Edited by Jon, : add quote Edited by Jon, : No reason given.Love your enemies!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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In either case, the mother-in-law is clearly in the wrong ... Well, I would say that she clearly isn't. So how shall we get past here beside mere assertion?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
I have decide not to respond to the idiots that have nothing constructive to say.
Seems some people think that getting fucked over by corporations is ok. Wonder what it is that they bitch about. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Jon Inactive Member |
Seems some people think that getting fucked over by corporations is ok. Wonder what it is that they bitch about. She got fucked over? Because she got to enjoy free email service for a certain amount of time and never paid a dime for it? She got fucked over by the corporation because they gave her something for free from which she benefited? Seriously, Theo, get off the horse.Love your enemies!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
If a company offers a service, whether free or not, they should be willing to support the service.
How about you just quit posting to this thread since you OBVIOUSLY, have nothing constructive or even relevant to add. Good day, Sir,Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Jon Inactive Member |
No one is 'in the wrong', per se. But the mother-in-law's expectation that the company providing her a free service do anything at all for her (including providing the free service) is ridiculous and childish.
Who the fuck expects for free something completely unnecessary and trivial from one single entity that and can be easily obtained for the same costnothingfrom any other entity? When I'm at the fare and the Sheriff's booth stops handing out free plastic cups, I go get one from the EMTs; I don't throw a fit because the fucking cops stopped offering free drinkware. I am appalled at the sense of childish, emotionally-stunted entitlement running through this thread from people who should be otherwise reasonable and rational.Love your enemies!
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Jon Inactive Member |
Here you are, sir; here's $20.
What? That's not enough to buy that new guitar you wanted? You're pissed off at me because I didn't give you even more free money? No way! I know that you and the rest of the folks in the entitlement bubble can't fathom even considering what I am saying; but to the rest of us out here in the real world your stuck-up, self-centered, cry-baby attitude is just disgusting and sick. Grow up. Use Google.Love your enemies!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Grow up. Use Google.
Gee, gmail is free and they have a great customer service. Pretty much destroys your argument.
Here you are, sir; here's $20. What? That's not enough to buy that new guitar you wanted? You're pissed off at me because I didn't give you even more free money? No way! Why are you so pissed off? I said Good Day; Sir.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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A: I'll look after your all your stuff for you, for free.
B: Thank you very much, here's all my stuff. You're my hero! A: Now I will keep all your stuff and never give it back to you. B: Well, now I am pissed. Jon: You have no right to complain, person A clearly said that this was a free service.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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When I'm at the fare and the Sheriff's booth stops handing out free plastic cups, I go get one from the EMTs; I don't throw a fit because the fucking cops stopped offering free drinkware. Not going to comment specifically on the email situation, but the idea that gift givers incur no liability simply because they don't charge is not correct. I would suggest looking at the legal doctrines of reliance estoppel and promissory estoppel. I'm not convinced that any type of estoppel applies here because the application is highly fact specific, but so far I haven't seen an argument here that they don't apply. Just a couple of people calling someone's granny a whiner. Here are the elements for promissory estoppel. Law in your jurisdiction may vary.
quote: Think about this. If a ortho surgeon was giving away free knee replacement and he cut into the wrong leg of a patient, do you think he can simply say, "hey, I did that operation for free, so get out of my face" Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Jon Inactive Member |
Gee, gmail is free and they have a great customer service. Pretty much destroys your argument. Not really. I never said a free service can't be great; I simply said that the free-service provider is under no obligation to make their free service greator even mediocre. You can believe otherwise; but that doesn't change reality.Love your enemies!
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