The Problems with Genesis: A Christian Evolutionist's View

What about, simply, the Bible being wrong here?Or is that just not a possibility?

Because it was written a very long time ago, before scientific advancement.Its a myth about creation, not a fact book.We'd expect there to be inaccuracies.ABE:This is what the writers thought they were working with: Of course they'd get parts wrong!Edited by Catholic Scientist, : see ABE

They wouldn't be known to the writers either! And if God magically poofed that knowledge into the writers' minds, then he could have done it to the readers too. As you have it, God has tricked all those ancient Jews and is a prankster. Why are you assuming that the Bible is literally true?It should be obvious to you from all the mental gymnastics that you have to go through, that it actually isn't and you're just doing what you have to in order to make it look like it is. But you're only fooling yourself.

You didn't answer my question:Why are you assuming that the Bible is literally true? Blasphemy. How dare you speak for the almighty God and place limits upon his powers. Does God have a mouth with a tongue in it? Or does he shoot magic mind words straight into their brains?You realize that you don't know this stuff and are just making it up, right? Yeah, your god is a prankster.Awesome magic powers to control humans and make them write magical books, not to mention the creation of the universe, but too impotent to tell his story without lying to an entire culture of people. A culture, by the way, who has been lead to think they are his chosen ones while actually getting the whole story entirely wrong.Hmph, you're god is really kind of a dick.Why would he do that to them? Certainly he has the power to do it some other way.

So then I've got a few thousand years on them...Its apparent that they got a lot of stuff wrong. Why are you assuming that they got everything right?

But you desperately want that to be true. This isn't some conclusion that's be arrived at. Its an assumption you make a priori. You mean, you can interpret the words to be so vague that practically any explanation can fit within them. You just happen to choose ones that you think are scientifically and academically correct. So we've got all these Jews, who according to your ideas, were tricked by god into believing that the Bible says a bunch of stuff that it doesn't really mean. This complete ruse by your god has cost them their place in eternity just so that god's message can be kept secret until you come along and figure it all out. I don't see how you can respect that?

You worship a prankster god.

That your god has performed some pranks doesn't necessitate that everything they've said is a prank.

The one's I've be mentioning. Have you not been paying attention? Do you need me to quote myself back to you? I do not call God a name, I call the god that you made up a name. I'm not condemning God, I condemn the gods that you invent and only when they deserve it. It isn't anything in the Bible that makes me say these things. Its the stuff that you write here that makes me say these things. Not you go on the offensive tactic. My attacks on your words are being said to be an attack on God himself.You fail to keep your own self included in the equation. How arrogant are you that you think that your own words actually come from God? Now you're blaspheming the Holy Spirit, the unforgivable sin.Look, I'll say it again. You offer that the Bible is written in a way that the ancient Jews could understand the words but also so that modern scientific understanding can mesh with the words. Since the Jews don't agree with you, then they must have been hoodwinked by god. Its the logical outcome of your scenario. You have yet to address it.

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Yeah, your god is a prankster.

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Awesome magic powers to control humans and make them write magical books, not to mention the creation of the universe, but too impotent to tell his story without lying to an entire culture of people. A culture, by the way, who has been lead to think they are his chosen ones while actually getting the whole story entirely wrong.

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Hmph, you're god is really kind of a dick.

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Why would he do that to them? Certainly he has the power to do it some other way.

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So we've got all these Jews, who according to your ideas, were tricked by god into believing that the Bible says a bunch of stuff that it doesn't really mean. This complete ruse by your god has cost them their place in eternity just so that god's message can be kept secret until you come along and figure it all out. I don't see how you can respect that?

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That's rich coming from you. That's not what were talking about. You've admitted that it was impossible for the Jews to recognize your modern scientific interpretations of the Bible. And that means that God tricked them into thinking it meant something else. Because, according to your position, they got it completely wrong to the point that it cost them their place in eternity. That's what makes your god so bad. He tricked an entire culture into damnation. No, according to you:

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3.I realize that the Bible writers would have had to avoid saying "and that was "the evening of the Hadean Era and the morning of the Archean era," simply because these facts would not be known to the readers until this last century.

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The facts had to be obfuscated, according to you. People weren't capable of understand the Truth. Its not their fault that they were tricked into believe the Bible meant something that it really didn't.