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kofh2u
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Message 133 of 150 (693062)
03-10-2013 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Eli
03-10-2013 2:10 PM


Re: "elusive origin"
Secondly, it is off topic.
Third, you've wallpapered many other threads with the exact same post.
The spamming of the same criticism of Genesis is what the moderator needs examine.
If the same dumb attack of Genesis is brought up over and over again, either that person to whon I respond has not yet read the psot that corrects him, or he is like you,... trying to silence any response to your claims that you know what is right.

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kofh2u
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Message 136 of 150 (693128)
03-11-2013 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by Straggler
03-11-2013 8:53 AM


Re: ... the numbers are Groups related to the CNS, (nervous system)
Describe the pattern you see.
I thought we had agreed that it is not denied that the brain is a pattern seeking device, and we do not dispute that Nature does have a pattern to its existence?
The idea that one, Nature and mind), would reinforce the evolution of the other does not seem perposterous unless one willfully takes a position against the idea, as perhps you now have retracked your previous agreement.
What I have said, which I understood was not yet agreeable to you, is that a particular specific and repetitious pattern exists both in Nature and our mind.
That pattern I illustrated back a few pages inthis thread.
It shows how a similar pattern organized the Chemical Atoms which was the hypothetical pattern I proposed.
That hypothetical pattern has now been verified in our search for the Quantum Particles (now that Higgs is verified).
That is the Scientific Method, is it not:
Hypothesis, followed by a rigorous experiment based on assuming the hypothesis has merit, and the observed support of the evidence collected.

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kofh2u
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Message 140 of 150 (693137)
03-11-2013 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by WarriorArchangel
03-10-2013 5:07 AM


Re: "elusive origin"
"God", is confusing and isolated until one finds in what religion the God is used. Not one Almighty.....
The Almighty, LORD God of hosts, HaShem, negates every God and its religion. That leaves the Almighty God of Israel....
Can you self proclaimed evolved, from you don't know from what, tell me of your elusive origin.....?
I could but Eli claims I already told people here many times and telling you, in spite you ask, is spamming the idea that 22 links back to the Apes by both Science and Genesis.
If you will not accept the Science explanation, and insist upon the Genesis story, just compare the correspondences between the 22 now extinct human species and the twenty-two names listed in the genealogy that claims kinds of men lived for thousands of years before they disappeared and were replaced by the next succeeding group.
Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.

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kofh2u
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Message 145 of 150 (693159)
03-11-2013 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by onifre
03-11-2013 1:45 PM


Re: God is everything that is not us...
First, I only know of 5 senses.
So are you saying that you've seen god and touched god? And you've also heard him and smelled him and tasted him?
Think about that carefully before you answer, so you don't sound insane.
"I am the Truth," is what I sense...
I use the Empirical Scientific Method to do that.
Empirical means we use our seven senses.
Yes, there are seven major senses, but there are also another dozen sublte senses not always referred to.

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kofh2u
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Message 148 of 150 (693512)
03-16-2013 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Stile
03-12-2013 12:19 PM


Re: Baloney
Baloney
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Apparently, these are the 7 major senses:
Sight
Smell
Touch
Taste
Hearing
Intuition
Equilibrium
But I don't think the last two are really accepted by anyone who isn't into some weird, imaginative stuff.
Hmmm.. pretty close.
Equilibrium really has an organ by which that sense is measured, in the ear.
Balance, a sense of Balance seems to transcend the physical position of the body, too, and is closely related to what we hear, both the Sense of Hearing and the Sense of Balance residing in the Ear.
These two also seem related to Musical Intelligence, which is one of the Seven Multiply Intelliegences listed by Howard Gardner in his now famous work on Intelligence.
I would argue against Intuition, which is actually one of the seven Freudian/Jungian Archetypes rather than a sense.
I would suggest to you that a priory, we all have a Sense of Time, (timing), as explained by Kant, and supported by the metabolic processes which adapt themselves to that timing.
Our Sense of Timing is evidenced in Jet Lag, and in all living things which function in regard to their Circadian Rhythms.
(Nevertheless, other source support the addition of 12 more very subtle senses which are more difficult to establish against arguments to the contrary. Hence, the rather soundenumeration of seven senses seems to make for a better case.)

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kofh2u
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Message 149 of 150 (693514)
03-16-2013 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by ringo
03-11-2013 12:10 PM


Re: Intelligence IS Truth, fantasies are perceptions...
Since there is no objective consensus about the "Holy Spirit", it can not be considered a "truth about reality". Rather, it is an individual fantasy.
The term "Holy Spirit" is open to definitions before one can say anything about the concept.
The concrete denotation, the actual meaning of the word "holy" is "separate."
In that sense, if one will accept the suggestion, for argument sake here, that Truth is an archetype that has evolved, experiential, in man, then it is separated de facto fantasies and false impressions, erroneous perspectives, and out right lies are separated from that "idea" of a source inside our mind that KNOWS the truth.
My argument for this source is that it refers to the Unconscious mind.
The argument I would make is that, the Unconscious mind is reconstructed genetically, and born again into the generation of the living.
It is inaccessible to our Conscious mind,but is wide awake and interacting in our own affairs and the affairs of those around us all the time,... unbeknownst to us, consciously.
It is that ancient of the ancients to which Daniel and Revelation refer.
It is the Good Shepherd in our lives evidenced by emotions and instincts that come into our consciousness unbidden, as messengers (angels) who interject ideas into our dreams and our thinking as if from some outside source.

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