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Author Topic:   General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')
Dr Adequate
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Message 706 of 1049 (693149)
03-11-2013 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 702 by Bolder-dash
03-07-2013 6:42 AM


Re: Stick up your ass, Moose?
It was a JOKE, about drug use! There was a smilie face for crying out loud!!
Did you actually believe Dr. A when he was trying to post his propaganda that I had insulted you? If that's the case, you really MUST be high!
So, just to check. If I were to say that you are a retarded lump of shit, and I followed that statement by posting "a smilie face", then the moderators should ignore that, 'cos it's "a JOKE"; and if you believe that I've insulted you, then "you really MUST be high!"; and it's just "propaganda" to say that I've actually insulted you.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 707 of 1049 (693556)
03-17-2013 9:23 PM


How is it that Admin (you know the impartial referee guy, who also devises strategies to convince all the fence sitters lurking here) has allowed the the Origin of Novelty discussion (in which evolutionists seem incapable of describing any coherent theory from the onset) to spiral completely off topic for page after page after page?
It could be he never noticed-although since he noticed that I was off topic three times he claims and suspended me, who started the thread, that would seem unlikely. Another possibility is that he is incompetent. Or the third possibility is that it is intentional, to divert away from the fact that the evolutionists side can't argue this topic well. I wonder which it is.
I guess if one is being very generous and un-skeptical, they could believe its incompetency.
Edited by Bolder-dash, : No reason given.
Edited by Bolder-dash, : No reason given.

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Message 708 of 1049 (693557)
03-17-2013 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 707 by Bolder-dash
03-17-2013 9:23 PM


If you'd quit complaining about moderation and come up with some evidence for your nutty claims, maybe you'd do better.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 709 of 1049 (693558)
03-17-2013 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 707 by Bolder-dash
03-17-2013 9:23 PM


Other forum members are supplied with a "cheer" button and a "jeer" button. Perhaps just for Bolder-dash Percy could arrange a "whine and lie" button, and then he'd hardly need to actually post here at all.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 710 of 1049 (693559)
03-17-2013 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 708 by Coyote
03-17-2013 9:52 PM


But is it on topic?
Because if there is one thing we all know, its that Percy is a real stickler for being on topic.

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bluegenes
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Message 711 of 1049 (693568)
03-18-2013 5:03 AM
Reply to: Message 710 by Bolder-dash
03-17-2013 10:53 PM


Great debate?
Bolderdash writes:
But is it on topic?
It's on topic for you to support the currently unsupported claims you've made in the O.P.
You say:
Bolder-dash writes:
I believe one of the biggest failures of the evolution camp is their inability to elucidate any plausible chain of events that leads to a new novel feature, which can be seen in modern animals.
The theory about how new novel features have arisen, such as eyes, or noses, or internal organs, always are explained as taking thousands, millions of years, and thus are not easy to see. But in order for this to make sense, you need to propose a realistic scenario of how this can occur. I think your side severely lacks the ability to do so.
You haven't supported your view that hypothetical scenarios involving demonstrably real phenomena (mutations, selection and drift) aren't "plausible" and "realistic".
Would you like a one on one great debate with me on "what is and isn't plausible and realistic in relation to the production of novelty in biology"? We could request non-intervention from moderators, and ask them to restrict any comments to the peanut gallery.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 712 of 1049 (693570)
03-18-2013 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 711 by bluegenes
03-18-2013 5:03 AM


Re: Great debate?
Bluegenes,
Interesting point Bluegenes, that you don't feel that you to provide convincing evidence for your theory, but rather put the onus on the other side to debunk evidence that doesn't even exist.
But back to the point of THIS thread.
So you do agree then, that its rather telling of Percy to conveniently disregard off topic posts which derail a thread-when it suits his purposes of interference; while he is very diligent about invoking threats of suspension very quickly, when it is more advantageous for him to silence damaging critiques of his theory.
I realize its business as usual here, but it worthwhile that at least we all know this is the case. The fence sitters can also probably see this pretty clearly by now. But its good to remind then again once in a while.
You never know when new people are going to come to this site actually expecting that its a debate site, rather than a propaganda site disguised as debate.

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vimesey
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Message 713 of 1049 (693576)
03-18-2013 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 712 by Bolder-dash
03-18-2013 8:45 AM


Re: Great debate?
You never know when new people are going to come to this site actually expecting that its a debate site, rather than a propaganda site disguised as debate.
This is a debating site, and rather a good one too. And one of the reasons that it is so good, is that when it comes to debating scientific matters, it does a good job of holding the participants to a reasonably rigorous sticking to the scientific method. In short, participants are expected to point to evidence on the science threads.
I know you've hand-waved and denied that evidence has been provided that is contrary to your beliefs, but hand-waving and baseless denial doesn't cut the mustard, either here or in any other serious context. Evidence has been presented on the relevant threads - not mathematical proofs, but very strongly persuasive in the context of the theories and their predictions - and you simply pretend that it is suspect, without the slightest grounds for thinking so.
And when you are asked to provide evidence for your beliefs, you seek to assert, again and again, and without the slightest justification, that no evidence has been provided by your opponents.
Ask yourself this - if you are really interested in which way the fence sitters will jump, do you want to be (a) one of the people who presents example after example of evidence; or (b) one of the people who simply hand-waves that evidence away, and never produces any of their own.
I have a shrewd idea who most people find more persuasive.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 714 of 1049 (693582)
03-18-2013 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 707 by Bolder-dash
03-17-2013 9:23 PM


How is it that Admin (you know the impartial referee guy, who also devises strategies to convince all the fence sitters lurking here) has allowed the the Origin of Novelty discussion (in which evolutionists seem incapable of describing any coherent theory from the onset) to spiral completely off topic for page after page after page?
Maybe he was busy doing something in real life rather than sitting around monitoring his forum all day?

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ringo
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Message 715 of 1049 (693584)
03-18-2013 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 707 by Bolder-dash
03-17-2013 9:23 PM


Bolder-dash writes:
How is it that Admin (you know the impartial referee guy, who also devises strategies to convince all the fence sitters lurking here)...?
If the moderation was as blatantly biased as you seem to think, there probably wouldn't be many lurkers here. And if Percy's diabolical plan was working, they wouldn't be on the fence.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 716 of 1049 (693588)
03-18-2013 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 712 by Bolder-dash
03-18-2013 8:45 AM


Re: Great debate?
Bolder-dash writes:
You never know when new people are going to come to this site actually expecting that its a debate site, rather than a propaganda site disguised as debate.
So, that's why you keep coming back. It's your civic duty. You make it easy for newcomers to pick out the idiots.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Dr Adequate
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Message 717 of 1049 (693620)
03-18-2013 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 712 by Bolder-dash
03-18-2013 8:45 AM


Re: Great debate?
Bluegenes,
Interesting point Bluegenes, that you don't feel that you to provide convincing evidence for your theory, but rather put the onus on the other side to debunk evidence that doesn't even exist.
But back to the point of THIS thread.
So you do agree then, that its rather telling of Percy to conveniently disregard off topic posts which derail a thread-when it suits his purposes of interference; while he is very diligent about invoking threats of suspension very quickly, when it is more advantageous for him to silence damaging critiques of his theory.
I realize its business as usual here, but it worthwhile that at least we all know this is the case. The fence sitters can also probably see this pretty clearly by now. But its good to remind then again once in a while.
You never know when new people are going to come to this site actually expecting that its a debate site, rather than a propaganda site disguised as debate.
Again, a single click on B-d's "whine and lie" button, if only he had one, would have achieved the same effect and so much more efficiently, saving him valuable time to ... well, to do whatever he does other than whine and lie. Sleep, perhaps?

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Bolder-dash
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Message 718 of 1049 (694500)
03-25-2013 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 717 by Dr Adequate
03-18-2013 10:20 PM


Re: Great debate?
Nosy says my last rely to you on Wasteful Intelligent Design was unnecessary. He just may be right. But then again, you like playing in the mud so much, I figured you would enjoy, after someone tells you what it meant of course.
Again, a single click on B-d's "whine and lie" button, if only he had one, would have achieved the same effect and so much more efficiently, saving him valuable time to ... well, to do whatever he does other than whine and lie. Sleep, perhaps?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 719 of 1049 (694561)
03-25-2013 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 718 by Bolder-dash
03-25-2013 8:52 AM


Re: Great debate?
Nosy says my last rely to you on Wasteful Intelligent Design was unnecessary.
Well yes. If you like to humiliate yourself in front of an audience, there are probably clubs you can go to. This is a debate site.

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AdminNosy
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Message 720 of 1049 (694563)
03-25-2013 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 719 by Dr Adequate
03-25-2013 3:52 PM


Also Unneccessary
and this reply doesn't advance any discussions either. What is humiliating is in the eye of of the beholder. Leave it to them to decide.
Edited by AdminNosy, : change author

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