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Author Topic:   A God Equation
ringo
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Message 9 of 27 (694636)
03-26-2013 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Phat
03-26-2013 9:33 AM


Re: Fuzzy Math
Phat writes:
Creation without a creator simply has no value.
That sounds like another version of, "The messenger is more important than the message."
Phat writes:
An unbeliever, in contrast, declares that I Am regardless. I live, and thus I have value.
That's one of the best arguments I've ever heard for being an unbeliever.

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ringo
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Message 14 of 27 (694701)
03-27-2013 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by GrimSqueaker
03-27-2013 4:57 AM


GrimSqueaker writes:
If god has ANY property is it conceivable that anything else can exceed him in this property, knowledge, power etc
"God" is incomparable.
Technically, He may be bigger, smarter, faster, able to leap taller buildings with a single bound - but other than "God always wins" the mathematics is undefined. That's why questions like, "Can God create a rock so heavy that even He can not lift it?" always fail.
And that's why concepts like "omnipotence" are essentially nonsensical.
Edited by ringo, : Added missing quotation mark.

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ringo
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Message 16 of 27 (694706)
03-27-2013 12:49 PM
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03-27-2013 12:31 PM


Re: Concepts Of Omni and Infinity
Phat writes:
One instant He could create such a rock. The next instant He himself could exceed the rock. In essence, the magnitude of the rock is Gods imagined magnitude of that moment.
I thought the party line was that God never changes.

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