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Author Topic:   Belief in God is scientific.
jar
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Message 5 of 262 (695123)
04-03-2013 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by divermike1974
04-03-2013 3:57 AM


Comupter 101
Garbage in -------------> Garbage out.

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Message 61 of 262 (695201)
04-03-2013 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by divermike1974
04-03-2013 4:48 PM


More examples of Garbage in/garbage out.
I claim that if the brain is the most powerful natural computer in the known universe and the majority of those brains say there is a God then that overwhelming number of answers should be classed as scientific evidence for the existence of said God.
You have not shown that the brain is the most powerful natural computer in the known universe or why that would be relevant even if it was true.
Nor have you shown why ANY output from Any computer should be considered scientific.
Frankly, all you have done is create worthless word salad, false analogies and presented unsupported assertions.

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jar
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Message 67 of 262 (695208)
04-03-2013 5:08 PM
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04-03-2013 5:04 PM


Re: More examples of Garbage in/garbage out.
Again, that is simply an unsupported assertion.
In addition it did not address the issue raised.
You have not shown that the brain is the most powerful natural computer in the known universe or why that would be relevant even if it was true.
Nor have you shown why ANY output from Any computer should be considered scientific.
Frankly, all you have done is create worthless word salad, false analogies and presented unsupported assertions.
AbE:
Do you understand why science does not simply use a Delphi Survey instead of using real computers to do complex calculations?
Edited by jar, : see AbE:

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Message 74 of 262 (695217)
04-03-2013 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by divermike1974
04-03-2013 5:16 PM


Science is NOT a religion
Of course science is not a religion and could never even be considered a religion by any thinking individual.

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Message 106 of 262 (695302)
04-04-2013 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Ossat
04-04-2013 8:48 AM


faith is not needed
I would need more faith to believe in the theory of evolution than in the idea that there is a God
Not really. That's just a silly statement.
What is needed for you to understand and accept the Theory of Evolution as well as the Fact that Evolution happened is not faith but education, experience, critical thinking skills and honesty.
The fact that the Theory of Evolution is the only model so far that explains the fact of Evolution is also unrelated to the belief in God. Many of us, as devout Christians, understand both the fact that Evolution happened and how the Theory of Evolution explains what we see, yet we still believe in God and have Faith in God.

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jar
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Message 116 of 262 (695326)
04-04-2013 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by mike the wiz
04-04-2013 2:20 PM


Re: faith is not needed
Bullshit Mike, I am not using the term fact as epithet, as propaganda or as rhetoric.
I am using therm fact when I am speaking of facts.
I don't think you have shown honesty in many years Mike. If you claim that Creationism can be Science then you are not being honest or you are delusional.
I don't doubt for a second that you BELIEVE Creationism can be science or that their might be Creation Scientists but that is at best a sign of being delusional.
Science must hold all things as tentative including God.

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Message 135 of 262 (695441)
04-05-2013 10:44 AM
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04-05-2013 6:08 AM


Re: faith is not needed
Well no, I'm not just assuming that Evolution is a fact; that is a conclusion based on all of the evidence. There was a time when there was no life on this planet. Then there was just very simple life. Over time the things living on this planet changed.
That is Evolution.
So you are a Devout Christian, but you cherrypick and decide what to believe from the Bible and what not. If you can't believe when God tells you how He made everything, how can you believe the texts about Jesus, and why did he even bothered dieing in the cross if Adam and Eve never even existed to sin and curse God's creation?
GOD wrote the Universe; man wrote the Bible.
how can you believe the texts about Jesus, and why did he even bothered dieing in the cross if Adam and Eve never even existed to sin and curse God's creation?
Well, I've actually read the Bible and there is nothing in there to support Adam and Eve sinning or God cursing man such that Jesus would have to be sacrificed as a blood offering.
Jesus was born a man, therefore Jesus was going to die.
It really is that simple but that should be discussed in another thread.
But in the Bible the stories tell two different and mutually exclusive tales about how God created all living things anyway.

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jar
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Message 152 of 262 (695556)
04-07-2013 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Ossat
04-07-2013 7:58 AM


Re: better living through chemistry
Ossat writes:
How does a Salt crystal "know" how to form a cube and get it just right?
...It's gotta be God!!
The problem is that even if that were true it would be worthless information as an answer to the question and we would be left as totally clueless as we were before as to the answer to the question.
Now science can provide us with an answer to the question that does not leave us clueless.

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jar
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Message 201 of 262 (695777)
04-09-2013 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by Ossat
04-09-2013 8:40 AM


Re: faith is not needed
I'm sorry but thee is so much wrong in your post that it is just laughable and simply makes God look stupid and Jesus just a farce, but absolutely none of it is on topic for this thread, but I would be happy to educate you in appropriate threads.
But Evolution is not based on biases but honesty.
Your quotemine from Romans has nothing to do with either Adam or Eve and no where in it is Adsam of Eve mentioned.
And yes, if there was any god to Jesus while he was here on Earth then the whole story is a worthless sham and farce.
Start threads and I will gladly teach you.

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Message 231 of 262 (695946)
04-10-2013 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by divermike1974
04-10-2013 1:39 PM


Re: belief
Very true. I remember when Tink's light was fading out and only if everyone closed there eyes real tight and believed in fairies could she be saved.

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Message 258 of 262 (745697)
12-26-2014 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 257 by kishan
12-26-2014 3:45 AM


Yes in science God is considered be the biggest energy neither be created neither be destroy.
I'm sorry but that just sounds like bullshit. Do you have any evidence that might support such a silly assertion?

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