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Coyote Member (Idle past 2133 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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The cat has said the dragon issue is wide open. Do you get it? Are you trying to impress the moggy with the formidable size of your congregation and the choir you sing to, Coy the Expert Choir Boy? Ooh, the Cheshire is all terrified and trembling... Listen, the cat is ready to hear the views expressed by both creationist sects. No favours though will be granted to neo-darwinians. Their theoretical record is very poor so their credibility is compromised severely. Understand? Nor your second-hand opinions may be given advantage over those reported by Pliny and numerous others.As to Pliny whom you are patronising here this is what he is coming back at you with: "Among these things, one thing seems certain - that nothing certain exists and that there is nothing more laughable and more presumptuous that the learned simian." Especially when his name is Coy the Expert Choir Boy, adds the Cheshire. So you can't come up with any bones then? So noted.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Listen, Coy, you are a bone-picker, not me. So stop your religious nonsense and haul instead your expert ass over there. To places where Herodotus, Pliny, Red Indians and others reported meeting and fighting the dinos. Look for more bones to challenge your own thesis. Otherwise, as I said your whole chronology is nothing set in stone. They are finding fresh cells and stuff in the dragon bones assumed to stay a hundred million of years idle.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2133 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Listen, Coy, you are a bone-picker, not me. So stop your religious nonsense and haul instead your expert ass over there. To places where Herodotus, Pliny, Red Indians and others reported meeting and fighting the dinos. Look for more bones to challenge your own thesis. Otherwise, as I said your whole chronology is nothing set in stone. They are finding fresh cells and stuff in the dragon bones assumed to stay a hundred million of years idle. I've found lots of bones in my career. Couple of weeks ago we came up with a nice grizzly bear mandible and a few other parts of a bear skeleton. We got hundreds of bones, mostly sea mammal and elk, on another project a few weeks before that. But no dinosaur bones and no dragon bones. My archaeologist colleagues across the country likewise report no dinosaur bones or dragon bones in Native American sites. You seem to be letting old myths color your thinking to the point that you have lost the ability to deal with reality. In other words, you are flat-out wrong.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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In other words, you are flat-out wrong. Pssh. He's "not even wrong". A complete waste of bandwidth. 0/10. Would not read again.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Coy boy is as sly and evasive as a shy girl. The issue put to you was that some of your chronology must be revised. It is either that protein decays rates are not what they are believed to be or it's that the dragon bones already found are of an unknown age anyway. Your elk and bears red-herrings don't impress the feline. The cat has just read something about them examining dino eggs fresh enough to guess the stages of the embryo. Shouldn't the eggs have crumbled to fine dust in next to 200 hundred million years?
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2133 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Coy boy is as sly and evasive as a shy girl. The issue put to you was that some of your chronology must be revised. It is either that protein decays rates are not what they are believed to be or it's that the dragon bones already found are of an unknown age anyway. Your elk and bears red-herrings don't impress the feline. The cat has just read something about them examining dino eggs fresh enough to guess the stages of the embryo. Shouldn't the eggs have crumbled to fine dust in next to 200 hundred million years? Ignorance of the facts does not make a persuasive argument, nor do your colloquialisms help your case. Care to put up or shut up? Where are all the dragon bones?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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ViperAce Junior Member (Idle past 4002 days) Posts: 6 From: Phoenix Joined: |
Don't fossil records and carbon dating and just about any reliable science pretty consistently place dinosaurs millions of years ahead of humans, along with showing a mass extinction that long ago? How could dinosaurs have possibly lived alongside humans?
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
It isn't carbon dating that is used for dinosaurs. It's meaningless for anything over about 50,000 years. Other methods are used.
There is a possibility of dinosaurs living alongside humans though. Just because dinosaurs lived a long, long time ago doesn't mandate that they can't also live now. Of course, with one class of exceptions, not finding them now suggests that they aren't living alongside humans. The exception is the birds which are classed as dinosauria so they do in fact live along side us which I think is very cool.
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ViperAce Junior Member (Idle past 4002 days) Posts: 6 From: Phoenix Joined: |
Ha, yeah thats true, I didn't think of modern species that are "dinosaur" in a sense.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Technically what you are thinking of are the "non-avian dinosaurs". I wish some of those were still around.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Coy Boy, face it: the open creationists' case is stronger than what you crypto-creo lot suggest on the issue. Look only at the Chinese calendar, boy. They don't have years of hobbit and leprechaun, do they? Them all are familiar beasts there. Sagan's rationalization sounds weak and contrived. Face it, you lot might be backing the losing horse here.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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Fire-breathing dragons constructed from dinosaur fossils?
Don't think so.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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I for one am glad Titanis walleri, is no longer roaming the grasslands of Texas. NosyNed writes: The exception is the birds which are classed as dinosauria so they do in fact live along side us which I think is very cool."You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
The cat heard an explanation that the fire spewing bit could have been based upon reality. Something analogous to bombardier beetle defence. It could have been methane produced in the dragon's belly with a mechanism to divert and ignite the mighty fart.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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The cat heard an explanation that the fire spewing bit could have been based upon reality. Something analogous to bombardier beetle defence. It could have been methane produced in the dragon's belly with a mechanism to divert and ignite the mighty fart.
The bombadier beetle does not produce fire.If you can show another organism other than humans that can summon fire at will please show your evidence. Otherwise this goes into the shit can of the utterly ridiculous speculation. "You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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