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Author Topic:   Precision in Nature: Evidence of God or Accidents?
NoNukes
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Message 73 of 77 (697175)
04-22-2013 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Percy
04-22-2013 7:32 AM


what do you have to offer that's better than a scientific theory?

Your question is an appropriate one; yet its point seems like mere quibbling after someone has made this argument:

As you can see, that [precise arrangement of elements] is the polar opposite of quantum mechanics theory which is based on Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. You do realize that something that is "uncertain" is unpredictable; do you not?

The above illustrates what happens when a person having little to no scientific background looks into a general purpose dictionary hoping to find an argument.

People with some knowledge of a subject can easily tell when some wannabe has simply done a cursory google search and blundered through the results to find something they can misinterpret. A wise, yet ignorant person would have understood that foreveryoung knew something they did not, and would not have tried to 'finese' their blind, enormous but through the china shop. But that understanding isn't what we see here.

I could post a sentence or two trying to explain the relationship between quantum mechanics and the periodic table, but I am reminded that typing in pages of text in an attempt to explain classical mechanics to Alter2Ego made not even the slightest impression. So instead I'll provide a useful reference.

For anyone actually interested in the relationship between chemistry and quantum physics, I'd recommend the following links as an introduction.

http://www.chemprofessor.com/quantum.htm
http://www.chemprofessor.com/periodicqm.htm

quote:
We don’t need to know the wave properties of an electron for a lot of useful chemical applications. We can think in terms of indivisible Dalton atoms to balance reaction equations and work stoichiometry problems.

However, if we really need details about the electrons, we need quantum mechanics. The really bad news is that the mathematics needed for quantum mechanics requires advanced calculus. The students who cannot work these problems for themselves will have to trust that someone out there knew how to do it, trust that someone understands this stuff.


For Alter2Ego I'd recommend the following text:

Proverbs 18:2 NKJV

quote:
A fool has no delight in understanding, But in expressing his own heart.

Edited by NoNukes, : Some grammar clean up.


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