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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
I was tempted to post this in Humour VII, but I guess it deserves a thread of its own in case discussion breaks out.
Wikileaks had released the Hovind thesis.
AnnouncementDissertation (pdf file) Patriot Bible University (Wikipedia page) home page of Patriot I was alerted to this by Jonny Scaramanga's blogFundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
You had to ruin my morning, didn't you.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Knee slapping material.
I got twenty-five pages into the thing (in a very few minutes) before I had to quit because I simply cannot give myself away by laughing out loud at work. Every paragraph or so I would mentally remind myself that I was reading a doctoral thesis, and then I'd have to click over to a work tab so I could contain the guffaws. In what field would this paper be a 'contribution to knowledge'? Now I'm laughing again!!! Uh-oh. My boss is calling me into the office... Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Edited by NoNukes, : UpdateUnder a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass |
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Panda Member (Idle past 3735 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Is it unusual for there to be no tabulated data at all in a science-based dissertation?
I have only read about 4 dissertations and they were filled with tables of data."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Is it unusual for there to be no tabulated data at all in a science-based dissertation?
No data, almost no citations. That's part of what makes this hilarious. With that quality of writing, I would never have graduated from high school.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
nwr writes: With that quality of writing, I would never have graduated from high school. Depends on the high school. If you went to one of the Christian Cult of Ignorance avoidance schools that would not just pass muster, it would be A+ material.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Depends on the high school. Perhaps, yes. But this is supposed to be a Doctoral Thesis. Hovind's paper would be mud thrown on the reputation of any school that awarded a degree based on such tripe. Of course, throwing mud on a pigsty wouldn't even be noticeable event. Patriot Bible University - Wikipedia
quote: Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Hail to thee my Alma Mater.
Glory to my God. Bringing all the lambs to slaughter. On science shall I trod. Woe to all the non-believers,Ye shall go to hell. The Earth is young, evil deceivers. Lessons I learned well. My thesis written oh so easy,No research need be done. I lie, obscure, make syntax cheesy. My ministry begun. On our Lords right side I'm seated.I make the evil wail. On my Income tax I cheated, And ended up in jail Hail to thee my Alma Mater,Unaccredited. I bathe each day in Holy Water. And now I am brain dead. --- Prisoner # 307449 Edited by AZPaul3, : cuz
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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The first Doctoral 'dissertation' I've ever seen which starts with
'Hello, my name is.....' The sad thing is that so many uneducated sheep are convinced that it is a 'Doctoral dissertation' and that the old convict is actually a 'scientist'...
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Taz Member (Idle past 3314 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Wasn't this leaked years ago?
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Panda Member (Idle past 3735 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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Taz writes:
Although 'leaked' appears to be a suitable term; the correct word is 'written'. Wasn't this leaked years ago?"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Wasn't this leaked years ago?
The normal practice for dissertations, is to publish them. I gather that Patriot U. did not follow this practice. They allowed access, but only with some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I'm not sure of the details, because I have not followed it closely. Yes, there has been earlier commentary by people who have had access. I am not aware of an earlier full public release (or leak).Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Shield Member (Idle past 2884 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
The entire thing has been out for a while.
I can see that i have had the PDF on my laptop since may 25th, 2012. Its a funny read.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3314 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
nwr writes:
The pdf has been out for a while, at least a couple years. I remember reading the whole thing (I'm a masochist). The normal practice for dissertations, is to publish them.I gather that Patriot U. did not follow this practice. They allowed access, but only with some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I'm not sure of the details, because I have not followed it closely. Yes, there has been earlier commentary by people who have had access. I am not aware of an earlier full public release (or leak). Here's a post from 2009 linking to the whole pdf. http://scienceblogs.com/...09/kent-hovinds-doctoral-disserta The release date was in 2009. Young-earth creationist Kent Hovind's doctoral dissertation - WikiLeaks And at the james randi foundation forum they posted it in 2009. [Merged] Kent Hovind's dissertation is available online - International Skeptics Forum So, yes, this is old news. If you guys hadn't previously read this, then you've been missing out. I did go through and read the whole thing. No, I did not do a full analysis of the paper. It was painful and embarrassing to read. Embarrassing for Hovind that is. I dare say I know some high school graduates that can write better than that.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Although 'leaked' appears to be a suitable term; the correct word is 'written'. How about "pooped forth"?
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