Did Dinosaurs live with man?

Young money... (Lil Wayne voice)- Oni

No, no, no. I think you misunderstood. Granted, these are like 10 feet tall.

I don't get it... but I don't listen to cRap.

I think YOU misunderstood. Don't you even know how big your blackberries are? 6 feet tall, remember? Go make a pie! The worlds largest pie. I'll loan you my pet T-Rex to help. He's a pre-fludd rex so he is friendly, albeit a bit cranky because he's kinda old (but far younger than the evolutionist's T-Rex).Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

You seemed to have missed the meat of my post:

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How is it that dinosaurs were never buried in the same deposits as modern mammals such as rhinos or deer? Why is it that dinosaurs were all buried under igneous rocks that date to 65 million years or older using radiometric dating methodologies? How does that work?

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It's OK kids, he just wants your lettuce sandwiches.

Others have covered various aspects of this question quite well. Here, I'd like to summarize the dating problem:If one is to argue a young earth, with dinosaurs and man cavorting about together from ca. 6,000 years ago until the flood, there are some things which must be established. These include:

--All of the methods science uses to date the past are incorrect.

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--Human and dinosaur fossils (or, more accurately, bones) are found in the same strata.

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--The sequences showing gradual and very time-consuming development of strata, and the development and extinction of many genera and species, took place in a very short time.

What the evidence shows:

--There are no human fossils, bones, or artifacts found in association with dinosaurs. Period.

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--Creationists have not been able to produce any evidence that all dating methods are incorrect, nor can they explain why so many different dating methods, using vastly different materials and techniques, agree with one another. They haven't even managed to produce evidence that any single dating method used to establish either an old earth or the ages of various layers is incorrect.

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--The difference in ages between dinosaur fossils and human bones/fossils is on the close order of 65 million years, not less than 2,000 years. Creationists have presented no evidence to the contrary.

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--Regarding the claim that genera and species developed in a very short time between 6,000 years ago and the flood, this would require macro-evolution thousands of times faster than that observed by scientists--a strange claim for those who deny macro-evolution ever happened! The observed development and extinction of genera and species is compatible with an old earth, but not a young earth.

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--Finally, the evidence shows that creationists are using apologetics in an effort to support their religious beliefs, rather than science to see what the evidence actually shows. When confronted by evidence, they automatically deny or ignore anything that fails to support their beliefs.

From all of this, creationists are clearly not doing science, and in fact, have no business even discussing science. They simply aren't qualified.

This is not at all necessary according to the Flood view which has all the strata having been laid down at the same time so that all the fossils in all the strata represent creatures that were all living at the same time.

The flood view is wrong, start to finish. It is based on old tribal myths, not evidence. It is contradicted by the evidence.This is shown by various forms of dating as well as stratigraphy.The layers you are claiming are all contemporaneous are clearly spread out over millions of years based on the evolution and extinction of hundreds or thousands of genera and species, as well as the depositional history which can be read from the layers.You can dispute this all you want, but that doesn't make it so.(See signature.)

Except Faith, as you well know, neither you nor anyone else has ever explained how the Biblical Flood could lay down all the different strata at the same time or sort all the fossils in the order found.The Biblical Floods (since the Bible has at least two mutually exclusive accounts) simply never happened and anyone claiming they did is simply wrong.

But that is just a post-hoc rationalization of the pre-conceived Flood scenario. That is, you don't have any idea what the Flood conditions would have done, you just already believe in the Flood, then you see that the strata looks a particular way, so then you decide that the Flood must have done it that way. That is not intellectually honest, its just wishful thinking.Anyways, the fossils in the strata are organized so that more primitive animals are on the bottom and more advanced ones are on top. Too, there's not a single advanced organism in the bottom strata nor any primitive ones in the top. Like this: You never find any of the holocene animals in the cambrian layer, nor any of the jurassic animals in the holocene layer.It is impossible for The Flood to have filtered out and organized all the animals into neat layers like that without a single exception anywhere in the world. Not one single arrowhead made its way down with a trilobyte into the lower layers. Not a single dinosaur escaped the layers that ended up fossilizing everything. There's no way for that to happen with a Flood without some sort of magic directly from God. But that's not what Flood proponents argue, they act as if it was all due to naturalistic mechanisms. Unfortunately, if you do invoke God, then you have to admit that he is playing a trick on us in making it look like it happened over a long period of time.

And adding to what CS just said, Faith: there is not ONE EXAMPLE ANYWHERE of an Eryops or Dimetrodon being found in the same stratum as a tyrannosaur or a stegosaur. Not one.

I suspect that Faith has given up -- on us.

The feline is envious of your certainty, Vatican. You've got such a lovely timetable there to believe in. A pyramid with the wolves, rabbits and simians on top. Accelerating towards the apex. You believe to know who went with and who went without who and how many of those going with and without were there and for how long they all kept going with and without. The Cheshire knows nothing of the sort. All he knows is that most are food to be eaten and fossils is but food beyond reach of any. What fraction of it is ever beyond reach of any? And for how long? And who knows what is the real rate of food decay and disintegration? And what is the longest distance beyond which there is no trace of any memory at all? What is the exact rate of forgetting, Vatican? - wonders the moggy.