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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
A newspaper report that's over 100 years old? And the artifacts are missing? (Or more likely never existed!)
And this is what you're relying on? This is the best you've got? You're joking! Don't you have any real evidence?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Get back to us when you have evidence.
Until then, perhaps you could peddle your nonsense elsewhere; somebody, somewhere might be silly enough to take it seriously. Its a big interweb.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
The clearest evidence is, Dogmameat, that nobody ain't got no remotest clue about such matters, least of all the quackademicians with their official version of history simian and universal. All the quackish lot are interested in and obsessed about is proving the bible-pushers wrong. How silly is that? That fanatical lot are fixated on and chained to the bible far more than the bible pushers themselves. Total waste of space. The bible pushers are at least some use for picking holes and exposing contradictions in the idiotic doctrines proposed by the university snake-oil merchants. Could the quacks do that job themselves or they will forever need a nanny? And this rant is supposed to convince us that dinosaurs lived with man, or that dragons existed into recent times? You've become nothing but a troll. And not a very good one at that.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Who are we, Dogmameat? Speak for yourself. I can see that you are trying to be a wit using personal attacks instead of evidence. Keep it up! You're half-way there!
What knowledge, silly, do you possess on behalf of all simians, you pretentious midget? The issue of the thread here is whether the simians and dragons have been physically contemporary or not. Modern humans and dragons have not been physically contemporary. In all these posts you have provided no evidence to the contrary. You can't even provide a source for bones, which should be all over the place. I've helped excavate both mammoth and mastodon bones, and tens of thousands of smaller bones, but have never in >40 years of digging found dragon bones. Neither has anyone else. If you have evidence to the contrary, why don't you present it?
Your dogma says an emphatic no to that yet there is an overwhelming doubt about your dogma. Understand? We understand the evidence, which says there is no such thing as a dragon, but we'll leave dogma to you and the rest of the true-believers. There is no place for dogma in science. You, on the other hand, appear to be full of it.
There is not anything impossible as such in the contrary proposition. Gibberish.
On the other hand, there are physical impossibilities involved in the very foundations of your dogma. Like getting something from nothing every step of the theoretical way and so on. Does the feline need to rub your nose harder in the foundational tenets of your stupid bigbangism and your silly neo-darwinism so that this should penetrate your creationist skull? Creationist gibberish. (But then that's a redundancy.)Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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There is no doubt that dinosaurs and people shared this planet before the Flood. In order to claim that, there are a number of problems you must first explain. Just one of these is the dating. Do you have any evidence that scientific dating is off by a factor of some 5,000X? I don't want to see hand-waving, a restatement of your beliefs, or any of that. I want you to produce real evidence that all dating methods are wrong.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
No I don't have the evidence you want though I think some creationistsw do, I just can never keep it all in mind. But I do have the Bible which is God's word, which says you're wrong. That really ought to suffice. If the bible says that dinosaurs coexisted with man it is wrong. That's pretty much all there is to it.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things." "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Alice in Wonderland The creationists have the Queen beat! The contortions they have to go through to believe that dinosaurs lived with man are funny to watch. They have to deny the accuracy of all dating methods, ignore much of the law of superposition, and turn the scientific method upside-down. They also have to ignore huge amounts of data which show they are wrong. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Sharing a continent is not necessarily hanging out together. Neither is a separation of 65+ million years.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Others have covered various aspects of this question quite well. Here, I'd like to summarize the dating problem:
If one is to argue a young earth, with dinosaurs and man cavorting about together from ca. 6,000 years ago until the flood, there are some things which must be established. These include: --All of the methods science uses to date the past are incorrect. What the evidence shows: --There are no human fossils, bones, or artifacts found in association with dinosaurs. Period. From all of this, creationists are clearly not doing science, and in fact, have no business even discussing science. They simply aren't qualified.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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This is not at all necessary according to the Flood view which has all the strata having been laid down at the same time so that all the fossils in all the strata represent creatures that were all living at the same time. The flood view is wrong, start to finish. It is based on old tribal myths, not evidence. It is contradicted by the evidence. This is shown by various forms of dating as well as stratigraphy. The layers you are claiming are all contemporaneous are clearly spread out over millions of years based on the evolution and extinction of hundreds or thousands of genera and species, as well as the depositional history which can be read from the layers. You can dispute this all you want, but that doesn't make it so. (See signature.)Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
I suspect that Faith has given up -- on us.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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The Cheshire knows nothing... Hey! We agree on something!Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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